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				<description><![CDATA[ <b><i>Ultramarines</i></b><br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>-</b> Calgar in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> = 285<br /> 5x Honour Guard in Drop Pod = 170<br /> ML2 Librarian in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> with storm shield and force axe = 125<br /> <br /> <b>Troops-</b> Tactical Squad with flamer, missile launcher and Rhino = 195<br /> Tactical Squad with heavy bolter, flamer and Rhino = 190<br /> Tactical Squad with meltagun and combi-melta and Rhino = 125<br /> <br /> <b>Elites-</b> Terminator Assault Squad with 5x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> = 475<br /> 5x Sternguard Veterans in Drop Pod with heavy flamer, 2x combi-plasma and 2x combi-melta = 205<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support-</b> Devastator Squad with 2x lascannons, missile launcher and plasma cannon = 140<br /> Centurion Devastator Squad with 3x grav-cannons = 250<br /> Vindicator = 125<br /> <br /> <b><i>Astra Militarum</i></b><br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>-</b> Knight-Commander Pask in Leman Russ Punisher with heavy bolter sponsons and Leman Russ Exterminator = 360<br /> Priest = 25<br /> <br /> <b>Troops-</b> Infantry Platoon<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCS</span> with 2x plasma guns and lascannon = 80<br /> 2x Infantry Squad with 2x autocannons = 120<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support-</b> 2x Wyverns = 130<br /> <br /> The Priest will be put in the Drop Pod with Calgar, or I'll scrap Calgar and the Honour Guard, and instead replace Calgar with Captain SmashFether, and put him in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with the Priest and Assault Termies. The Infantry Squads can camp behind and the Ultramarines Heavy Support units can target Ork Trukks. The Wyverns can bombard the small ork units camping on objectives.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Nov 2014 12:15:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sgt_Smudge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any comments?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:34:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sgt_Smudge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Please, anyone?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Nov 2014 21:05:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I dont play marines..but I am an ork player and this list would do very well against my greentide army. I would be more tempted to make a change where you could add another vindicator. Pretty scary to run my tide straight at 2-3 vindicators..<br /> <br /> I also think the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> really grants you the benefit of having both, somewhat armored infantry but also pushes your model count higher by having the platoon of guard. <br /> <br /> If your opponenet style favors a couple <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANz</span> missiles (3 meganobz in a trukk) or more vehicle heavy list then the autocannons should tear up some trukk armor. Watch out for a blitz-brigade formation...5 scouting Battlewagons filled to the brim with boyz, meganobz, tankbustas and a lukky stikk warboss...<br /> <br /> Hope you have fun. Orks are great to play as but also against. Hope a more seasoned marine player can help with the list. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Sal4m4nd3r]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>MANZ</span> in a Trukk, but there will be a unit of Nobz with powerklaws and Grotsnik, with a Warboss with Lucky Stikk in a battlewagon. I don't think Scouting Battlewagons will be a thing for them!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:49:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmm.. why he would have a warboss with Da lukky stikk without Mega armor.. is BEYOND me. i would venture to guess the warboss and his nob buddies will be in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(613);'>MA</span>. If not... The best he can get in in terms of armor is  4+ save and a 5+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2014 18:09:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sal4m4nd3r]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah. That's it. Only 'eavy armour. And a painboy. And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(540);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(705);'>DLS</span></span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:12:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sgt_Smudge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not optimal for orks, but still a potent combat machine... Because it isn't 2+ focus all your fire and they will fall]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2014 07:05:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Waaagh 18]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So, Marine players out there, would you advise swapping Calgar and the Drop Pod Honour Guard for a Captain with Thunder Hammer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and Shield Eternal and something else?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:00:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sgt_Smudge]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The list seems fine against an ork list, but the unit in question is over 400pts... Maybe swap him for the captain and an additional vindicator or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>tfc</span>. Any thoughts on air or aa? 2 storm talons or a storm raven or quad gun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:30:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ T3RM1NAL_LANC3]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not expecting any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>, but I could use a Stormtalon or two with skyhammer missiles.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2014 19:12:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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