<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "30k vs 40k"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 30k vs 40k 40k marines and had some questions. Can a 30k army take and use normal 40k allies and also use book powers like divination, biomancy and so on? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333424.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333426.page GMT 30k vs 40k 40k armies and use the 40k book powers? or does 30k have its own?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333431.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k
Their books contain your answer as to how you can play games of 30k (and using them for 40k)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333475.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333475.page GMT 30k vs 40k 40k in much the same way that Apocalypse datasheets aren't. 30k armies are intended to play against other 30k armies and are balanced a such. Part of this involves things like much more widespread AP3 capability since almost everything is wearing 3+ or better armour.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333670.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333670.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k The Horus Heresy Book 1 Errats & FAQ 16.05.13 file, last page. Short answer: with the exception of Lords of War and Primarchs, and taking into account there are 'certain rules anomalies and inconsistencies' between HH and 40K, as long as both sides are using the Age of Darkness FoCs, there shouldn't be an issue.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7333740.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k
 Carlson793 wrote:
This is covered in The Horus Heresy Book 1 Errats & FAQ 16.05.13 file, last page. Short answer: with the exception of Lords of War and Primarchs, and taking into account there are 'certain rules anomalies and inconsistencies' between HH and 40K, as long as both sides are using the Age of Darkness FoCs, there shouldn't be an issue.


Q:
Are the armies and units in the Horus Heresy books by Forge World meant to be used in games against regular Codex armies, such as say Grey Knights or Orks?
A:
While Forge World’s on-going range of Horus Heresy books and their game content are all designed to use and be compatible with the Warhammer 40,000 rules, they have been fine-tuned and focused on playing battles in the milieu of the Horus Heresy rather than in conjunction with the Codexes representing warfare in the 41st Millennium, and this will remain the case.

Sounds like you can play games with them, but they were not designed to play 30k with 40k. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7334510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7334510.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k FW covering their butt with a vague response to essentially toss the ball back in our corner.

Simple truth is, the legion list is still just marines. Marines without ATSKNF. If you have no problems dealing with 40K marines, then you'll generally have no problems dealing with 30K marines. There are very few, if any, things in 30K that come even close to the shenanigans that 40K armies are capable of. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7334612.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7334612.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k
 Tannhauser42 wrote:
There are very few, if any, things in 30K that come even close to the shenanigans that 40K armies are capable of.


The main example against was being able to field all of you marines with as many Special Weapons as you want.

40K Marines have a restriction of 1 Special, 1 Heavy per squad of 10. That difference is often the contention point.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335298.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k
And there's a huge amount of AP3 in there, whole force is made around killing MEQ.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335319.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335319.page GMT Re:30k vs 40k
 grendel083 wrote:
20 dirt cheap Space Marines firing 80 Bolter shots in a single attack is still terrifying


Lol how? Legion stuff? Double your shots? Yeah, no wonder people think OP...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335373.page GMT 30k vs 40k OP" because they don't bother to learn the damn rules before leaping to conclusions. There are no dirt cheap marines, they still start at 15 points or more when you buy the initial squad. They do get cheaper as you buy more, but then you're spending even more points. There are no massive amounts of AP3 (and where you do see it, it costs just as much or more than the 40k versions), tactical squads can't even take special or heavy weapons, and the one 10 man squad that can take all plasma costs over 300 points and will kill at least one of its own every time it shoots, and are still just marines without ATSKNF.

Oh, and those 80 shots? They can't move in the turn they use that ability, so if you're dumb enough to walk into rapid fire range, you deserve exactly what you get.

Seriously, people, learn the actual rules and how the game actually plays before you take internet rumor and myth as fact.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335583.page GMT 30k vs 40k 40k stuff, but the mid tier 30k stuff tends to be a little better than midtier 40k stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622024/7335600.page GMT