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Lord-
Supreme Sorceress, Dark Pegasus, Hand Weapon, Wizard Level 4, Lore of Dark Magic, Power Scroll, Cloak of Twilight (355pts)

Heroes-
-Death Hag, BSB, Cauldron of Blood, 2x Hag (300pts)
-Sorceress, Hand Weapon, Lore of Shadow, Wizard Level 2, Dispel Scroll (140pts)

Core-
-Corsairs x10, Full Command, Hand Weapon, Light Armor, Sea Dragon Cloak,Repeater Handbows, Banner of Eternal Flame (150pts)
-Dark Riders x5, Full Command, Light Armor, Spear, Standard bearer, Repeater Crossbows, Shields (130pts)
-Witch Elves x28, Full Command, Two Hand Weapons, Witch Elves (338pts)

Special-
-Executioners of Har Ganeth x15, Full Command, Great Weapon, Heavy Armor, Banner of Swiftness (225pts)
-Reaper Bolt Thrower (70pts)
-War Hydra, Fiery Breath (180pts)

Rare-
Doomfire Warlocks (125pts)

2013 (?) point.....what do you think??????]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341082.page GMT [2000] - Dark Elves - vs Skaven 2000pts
If you want infantry, try two big blocks of 30+. That way he has to commit to killing one. And this would be one of the few times I recommend black guard over executioners.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341154.page GMT Re:[2000] - Dark Elves - vs Skaven 2000pts
Secondly, like thedarkavenger points out, your units are too small. Generally in Fantasy, bigger is better for infantry units, so your Corsairs and Executioners could both do with being bumped up to 30. However, you're not going to have the points so, since Corsairs fill a similar role to Witch Elves, I'd drop them altogether. The flaming banner will serve you well against any HPAs you might encounter, but I think you'd be better off with a Fire Mage, BoEF Xbows or simply poisioning it to death with your witch elves.

Executioners are a good unit, but their strengths don't come in terribly useful against Skaven. You're better off dropping them for a unit of Black Guard (dropping the Corsairs as well should give you enough points for a unit of 20 or so with the Razor Banner), more RBTs or Warlocks or even another Hydra. The latter is perhaps not the most competitive choice (I think Black Guard would be best) but flaming breath attacks are always good against Skaven and two Hydras plus a CoB should be enough target saturation for any Warp Lightning Cannons you encounter.

Next, you need to sort out your Magic. I personally think that, if you're taking a Lvl4 Dark Magic Sorceress on a Pegasus, you may as well take Morathi, since she does exactly the same thing but better, and the extra bonuses she has are well worth the points increase. Dark Magic isn't the best lore, but it is still very good and I think it would serve you well in this list. If you can get any practice games in beforehand though, it would be worth playing around with it. For your Hero Sorceress though, I'd recommend downgrading her to Lvl1 and switching to Beasts. Shadow is a great Lore, and synergises beautifully with Witch Elves, but you really need to be a Lvl4 to get the most out of it and, furthermore, it isn't of huge value against Skaven. Lvl1 Beasts, on the other hand, guarantees you Wyssan's, which is a fantastic spell for Witch Elves. The extra points saved could also come in very handy.

Finally, as a few nitpicks, drop the Full Command on the Dark Riders (you only need a musician) and get Witchbrew and, if you can afford it, an Ogre Blade, on your Death Hag.

Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341326.page GMT [2000] - Dark Elves - vs Skaven 2000pts http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341341.page GMT [2000] - Dark Elves - vs Skaven 2000pts
 thedarkavenger wrote:
Just a side note Shadow, Standard Bearers on Dark Riders are actually a REALLY good shout. The standard+shield possibilities means you can put them into an existing flank and get a +4 combat res fairly easily, without worrying about giving up too much.

Hmmm... That is a fair point. I've sent my Dark Riders into combat a number of times in a pinch, and the extra +1 CR would come in handy in such situations. And Dark Riders aren't bad in combat either. After all, they are Dark Elves, and have a +1S bonus on the charge.

So yes, I guess, if you can, keep it, but if you're 10 points over 2k, I'd still recommend dropping it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622438/7341365.page GMT