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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> <br /> Painboy <br /> <br /> Warboss <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tls</span>, cyborg body, bosspole, da finkin cap. <br /> <br /> Elites <br /> <br /> 5x evy armour nobz 4x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span>, boss nob <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> and bosspole. <br /> <br /> In battle wagon with Ard case, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> 2x rl, ea, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>gk</span>, gr, are ram, zapp gun. <br /> <br /> Pain boy joins that unit. <br /> <br /> 5x evy armour nobz 4x bc, boss non big choppa, boss pole<br /> <br /> In a trukk with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>bp</span>, ea, gr, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>rpj</span>, are ram, wb. <br /> <br /> Warboss goes in there <br /> <br /> Troops 8x evy armour shotta boyz 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> boss nob bc, boss pole <br /> <br /> In a trukk <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span>, ea, gr, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>rpj</span>, are ram <br /> <br /> 8x evy armour sluga boyz 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> boss nob bc, boss pole<br /> <br /> In trukk <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span>, ea, gr, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(629);'>rpj</span>, are ram<br /> <br /> Fast attack<br /> <br /> 3x defkoptas all with big boom and tlr launcha <br /> <br /> 5x war bikers boss nob bc, boss pole <br /> <br /> --------<br /> 1498 <br /> --------]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622727/7345579.page"><b>Dark-angel-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>cm</span> wrote:</b></a><br/>Here is a list I created for 7th ed. I havnt played 7th rd yet and I just want to know if this lost would work. <br /> Trukk (85pts) <br />             (Ramshackle)<br />             Big Shoota, Boarding Plank (15pts), Extra Armour (10pts), Grot Riggers (10pts) (It Will Not Die), Red Paint Job (5pts), Reinforced Ram (5pts), Wreckin' Ball (10pts)<br />     * Boyz (193pts) <br />         ('Ere We Go!, Furious Charge, Mob Rule)<br />         'Eavy Armour for Mob (40pts)<br />         * Boss Nob (26pts) <br />             Big Choppa (5pts), Bosspole (5pts), Slugga, Stikkbombs<br />         * 8x Boy (56pts) <br />             8x Choppa, 8x Shoota (8pts), 8x Stikkbombs<br />         * Boy w/ Big Shoota (11pts) <br />             Big Shoota, Choppa, Stikkbombs<br />         * Trukk (60pts) <br />             (Ramshackle)<br />             Big Shoota, Extra Armour (10pts), Grot Riggers (10pts) (It Will Not Die), Red Paint Job (5pts), Reinforced Ram (5pts) </div></blockquote><br /> Wow... stop.  I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what your doing.  You need to re-do your list, we don't need to see the rules for eveyrthing (all your ere we gos! etc) it makes it REALLY hard for people to read your list.  It'll take We also dont need to know mandatory wargear for Bikes, we all know they have Dakka Guns.  I've reworked your list below <b>(and taken out the stuff which you REALLY don't need</b>) to see what people need to see.  You need to read the forum rules about posting individual points for units.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Painboy = 50pts <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Warboss + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + Cybork Body + Da Finkin' Kap + 'Eavy Armour + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 1: You had the Warboss with a Git Finder, however he didn't have anything good to use the increased <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> with.  Ditch the Git Finda.  <br /> Point 2: Where was your Warbosses <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> in your original list?
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</div>Elites: 5 Nobz + Eavy Armour + Waaagh! Banner + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> + 3 Big Choppas<br /> Dedicated Transport for Nobs: Battlewagon + Ram + 2 Rokkits + Boarding Plank <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 3: Your original list has 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span>.  That's a waste of points and overkill.  Expect the Battlewagon to be destroyed very quickly this way.  Ontop of that, due to the insides, you shouldn't make the Battlewagon so expensive.  It'll end badly.  For carrying <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> units, the Battlewagon <b>never </b>be above 200 points.
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</div>Elites: 5 Nobz + Eavy Armour + Waaagh! Banner + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> + 3 Big Choppas<br /> Dedicated T: Trukk + Ram + Boarding Plank + Rokkit <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 4: Trukks should <b>NEVER </b>be 85pts.  It's AV10 on all sides and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> WILL be blown up.  Keeping it simple and disposable is more effective.
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</div>Troops: 12 Boyz + Eavy Armor inc Nob + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> Dedicated T: Trukk + Ram + Boarding Plank + Rokkit <br /> <br /> Troops: 12 Boyz + Shootas inc Nob + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> Dedicated T: Trukk + Ram + Boarding Plank + Rokkit <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 5: 12 boys inside a Trukks without Eavy Armor will likely die.  The 4+ Armor save is fantastic for them.  Plan your play style to expect your trukks to explode.  They do that alot.  The one unit of Shoota boys is there to keep points down and give your list some variation
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</div>Fast Attack: Deffkopta + Twin-Linked Rokkits<br /> Fast Attack: 2x Deffkopta + Twin-Linked Rokkits<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 6: The Mob Rule cripples Deffkoptas these days.  If that squad of 3 looses 1 Kopta, then the remainder will be forced to take a Mob Table hit, and likely run away.  Orks don't re-group very well.  Big Bombs aren't great these days so try to keep points down and just use the Rokkits, you'll find they're more effective.
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</div>Fast Attack: 6 Warbikers inc Nob + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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Point 7: Warbikes are very good these days.  I would suggest adding more.  A painboy on a bike is fantastic, I would highly suggest converting one up.  A Warboss on a Bike is a fantastic killing machine too.  Definately invest in one as it's the key to Evil Sunz
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</div>I'm not sure where you were planning on running your Warboss.  Be aware that if you put it in your Battlewagon with your Nobs, then that WILL be a primary target, which you don't want.  You want your opponent to have to spread their targets around, not knowing what to target makes it benifital to you getting deadly units in there.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It happens when you copy and paste from battle scribe  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Wow... stop. I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what your doing. You need to re-do your list, we don't need to see the rules for eveyrthing (all your ere we gos! etc) it makes it REALLY hard for people to read your list. It'll take We also dont need to know mandatory wargear for Bikes, we all know they have Dakka Guns. I've reworked your list below (and taken out the stuff which you REALLY don't need) to see what people need to see. You need to read the forum rules about posting individual points for units.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:31:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/56bd1e92c5044c3ec9a4429ad395dd29.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/622727/7347337.page"><b>Waaagh 18 wrote:</b></a><br/>It happens when you copy and paste from battle scribe  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Wow... stop. I'm sorry but you clearly don't know what your doing. You need to re-do your list, we don't need to see the rules for eveyrthing (all your ere we gos! etc) it makes it REALLY hard for people to read your list. It'll take We also dont need to know mandatory wargear for Bikes, we all know they have Dakka Guns. I've reworked your list below (and taken out the stuff which you REALLY don't need) to see what people need to see. You need to read the forum rules about posting individual points for units.</div></blockquote></div></blockquote>I figured it would be something like that.  However if your wanting people to read over your list then you can't just lazily copy and paste.  You have to make it neat and easy to read otherwise people won't bother commenting.  Hence why there's so few replies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Nov 2014 08:19:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>Btw</span> you need to edit out points cost or a mod will eat your soul]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As above, it's a headache to read.<br /> Individual points cost violate forum rules.<br /> <br /> And there's no indication of who goes where? And what's the plan?<br /> <br /> Also things like Cybork on a Painboy? Those don't stack, it's wasted points.]]></description>
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