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Exorcists:
Forbidden Knowledge: Exorcists have the Adamantium Will and Preferred Enemy (Daemons) special rules.

Focused Fury: Infantry models in this detachment gain the Counter-Attack special rule. Any unit with this special rule may choose to gain the Shred special rule when firing in the Shooting phase, but may only fire Assault weapons if they choose to do so.

Meditation: At the beginning of your turn you may choose for all models with Chapter Tactics (Exorcists) to enter into Meditation. While under Meditation all models lose And They Shall Know No Fear and the Focused Fury special rules and gain Fearless and re-roll saving throws of 1. You may end Meditation at the beginning of your turn.
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I don't know how OP it would be compared to something like Raptors who get Rending Bolters and Bolt Pistols in exchange for not moving or assaulting.

But, I do see your point here's my update:

Focused Fury: Infantry models in this detachment gain the Counter-Attack special rule. Any unit with this special rule may choose to re-roll failed to wound rolls of 1 when firing in the Shooting phase or during Overwatch, but may only fire Assault weapons if they choose to do so.

Meditation: At the beginning of your turn you may choose for all models with Chapter Tactics (Exorcists) to enter into Meditation. While under Meditation all models lose And They Shall Know No Fear and the Focused Fury special rules and gain Fearless and may make a Feel No Pain roll on a saving throw of 1. You may end Meditation at the beginning of your turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531457.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531457.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics GK successors? oh boy

Any other fluff?

Id rather see something akin to black Templar style rage against daemons.

Something like:
Exorsist chapter:Anchent foe: Hatred Daemons, ad will

Hypnotic (probably a better word for it) Zeal: Gains Zealot. FNP Rage. once per game per unit.

Not overstated and simple.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531485.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics Keep forbidden knowledge for definite though! That's the fluffiest part!

Quick question. What are you going for with this 'assault weapons only' thing? The only units I see that benefitting are sternies or command squads with flamers/combiflamers? Is it that you want it to benefit? If so I would also maybe add that tac squads can take heavy flamers. Then more of the army could benefit from it. Of course the CT then start to get extensive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531506.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Exorcists

When Forge World released Chapter Tactics, they just said screw it, use any Chapter Tactics you want, instead of giving them proper rules.

Assault Weapons Only is an indirect buff to assault. I was considering giving them Rage, but I think it might be OP.

here's the final rules:

Exorcists:
Forbidden Knowledge: Exorcists have the Adamantium Will and Preferred Enemy (Daemons) special rules.

Focused Fury: Infantry models in this detachment gain the Counter-Attack special rule. Any unit with this special rule may choose to re-roll failed to wound rolls of 1 when firing in the Shooting phase or during Overwatch, but may only fire Assault weapons if they choose to do so.

Meditation: At the beginning of your turn you may choose for all models with Chapter Tactics (Exorcists) to enter into Meditation. While under Meditation all models lose the And They Shall Know No Fear and the Focused Fury special rules and gain Fearless and may make a Feel No Pain (5+) roll on a saving throw of 1. You may end Meditation at the beginning of your turn.
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So for sure forbidden knowledge: Ad will and Pe Daemons works well.

but for the focused fury and mediation where is that comeing from?

im still reading through the wiki though ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531576.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531576.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531602.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics
 J3f wrote:
The Exorcists are noted for being a particularly aggressive Chapter, but they can also enter a trance where they become fearless and particularly resilient to pain.


Just got to that part. but the thing is they are also a very unpredictable and change there tactics regularly as well. it seems it would be fine to have Trance state maybe as a once per game ability for a straight fearless and 5+ FNP. which gives them better utility when something really needs get done.

without straight up making them abusively op or just smurf +1 perhaps there unpredictable nature can be put into a 1+ sieze or some flavor of scout/outflanking/infiltrate? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531625.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531684.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics ATSKNF and Fearless is basicily identical on LD8-9 guys.

If anything they should have a nice version of that warlord trait that lets you redeploy after everyone is done within some distance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531711.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics
There will be times you wished you were meditating and other times you wish you weren't.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531723.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics
 J3f wrote:
It's all or nothing in that you can't leave it on your Tacticals but give Focused Fury to your Stern Guard.

There will be times you wished you were meditating and other times you wish you weren't.


There probably wont

Honestly the diffrence is FNP or counter attack. One is highly situational the other is great for whenever.

Like what situation would be good for what?

And to add to that, why would there unpredictably let them reroll to wounds in shooting? where is the correlation?
i see the mediation one that makes sense as its in there fluff.

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Focused Fury is better when you want to charge or expect to be charged.

I'm not sure exactly what else I can do to balance out the two modes without making them OP. Change Counter Attack to Rage? Reroll 1's to hit instead of to wound?

being better at using assault weapons represents their aggression and penchant for weapons that allow them to get into assault. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531781.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531781.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics
 J3f wrote:
It's worse than FNP(6+), It's equivalent to FNP (6+) except against anything that beats your armour save. You're also stuck with Fearless, which means you're easily tarpitted and can't go to ground.

Focused Fury is better when you want to charge or expect to be charged.

I'm not sure exactly what else I can do to balance out the two modes without making them OP. Change Counter Attack to Rage? Reroll 1's to hit instead of to wound?


The best way to balance them out is to keep them simple. There is a bit of book keeping to check which units have which buffs.

Focused fury is making your guys space wolves +1 with the rerolls. why not just they have to chose between Counter attack or Fearless? or heck just a reroll LD or stubborn.

I still feel the redeployment gives the best tactical unpredictability without complicating the units.

Just how aggressive are they? is it enough to warrant extra rules? i mean Black Templar are pretty damn aggressive but they have is crusader.

And at best if they are actually agressive why would they get counter attack? wouldnt rage make more senes? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531796.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics
Also, I think I'll change Focused Fury to Counter-Attack and Hammer of Wrath.

Focused Fury: Infantry models in this detachment gain the Counter-Attack and Hammer of Wrath special rules.

Meditation: At the beginning of your turn you may choose for all models with Chapter Tactics (Exorcists) to enter into Meditation. While under Meditation all models lose the And They Shall Know No Fear and the Focused Fury special rules and gain Fearless and may make a Feel No Pain (5+) roll on a saving throw of 1. You may end Meditation at the beginning of your turn.

Mantis Warriors get Hammer of Wrath and can get Furious Charge if they charge out of cover, so I think it balances out.

Mark of Khorne is Counter-Attack and Rage. Space Sharks (Carcharodons) only get Rage when they win an assault and must charge the nearest enemy unit they can reach. Rage is a really powerful special rule.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/632601/7531824.page GMT Exorcists Chapter Tactics CT to be then meh.

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