<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[2000] - Eldar - Non Spam"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam Disclaimer: If you are going to criticize because I am not running Wave Serpent spam please do not post.

I have a 2000 Pt. local tournament coming up this month and I wanted to run an Eldar list that wasn't just "Spam Wave Serpents and win" list.

Autarch: Fusion Gun
Guardians x11 Star Cannon Support Gun
Guardians x10 Star Cannon Support Gun
Crimson Hunter
Crimson Hunter Exarch
Vaul's Wrath Support Battery: Vibro Cannon x3
War Walker: Holo Fields, Ghost Walker Matrix, Star Engines, Star Cannon, Scatter Laser x3
Wraith Knight
Fire Dragons x6
Fire Dragon Exarch: Fast Shot, Fire Pike
Wave Serpent: Holo Fields, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon
Wraith Guard: D-Scythe
Wave Serpent: Holo Fields, Scatter Laser, Shuriken Cannon

Looking for any suggestions to the list without making it too cookie cutter to what has been showing up in tournaments since the 6th edition codex came out and since 7th dropped.

Thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7568451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7568451.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569144.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569144.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam
Warlocks aren't as good with their shenanigans as they used to be with the 7th edition psyker rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569171.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam LOS entirely. But I'll be interested in how it works either way, as it's pretty similar to my list.

Is the Autarch there just for a cheap HQ?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569186.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569186.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569295.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569751.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam Str 8 shots each.


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If nothing else the vibro cannon is definitely a denial weapon. It has a good enough range that not much is going to want to get in its range as 3 hits can be devastating to even heavy vehicles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7569768.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam DE allies? 5 dragons in a venom is just so sweet!! Also, I really don't like guardians (I hate their models tbh) why not avengers?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570082.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570082.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam
 humanas wrote:
Have you considered adding DE allies? 5 dragons in a venom is just so sweet!! Also, I really don't like guardians (I hate their models tbh) why not avengers?


Avengers are pretty good if you have them in Wave Serpents. Really the only reason people even take DA's is for the wave serpent. Guardians or a bit more squishy but they also get a heavy weapon. Adding a star cannon lets them soften up a group of marines, or centurions, or any other elite type infantry from a distance. The only benefit DA's get is 6" of range on their standard weapons and 1 better armor save which does nothing for them if you stick them both in cover anyways. Other than that their WS, BS, S, T is all the same. I see them more as a star cannon with 10 wounds.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570328.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570328.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam SCs on the serpents, the extra guardian, the extra fire dragon, the holo fields on the walkers you can take a farseer.

The farseer with give you access to good defensive powers, and twin linked for your vibros, get shrouding from telepathy and congo line your guardians within 6" of the seer for unit shrouded, not to mention the +3 magic dice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570370.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570639.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam
I was saying to take DE just so you can get your Fire dragons in a venom and deep strike them, cause if your opponent knows what he is doing they will never reach their target. And a raider with kabalite warriors is not bad and it's cheap.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7570702.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam emls]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7571186.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7571186.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7571298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7571298.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam
I think in total this list will get annihilated, the guardians might be able to tar pit a deep striking unit .. (but then, why take star canons?) the vibro canons are a great idea (I have 9!) but 3 is often not enough..

the *game winners* of this list are the fliers, the 2 wave serpent units and the wraithknight.. the vibro canons might ive a fairly long time.. if you can make those units work together you are still 600 pts down on a list you are against.. what I am saying is this *is* a sort of spammy cheese list you just take filler units that are simply there to die in the first turn

I would seriously think about taking 2 squads of jet bikes instead of the guardians.. does the autarch go with the fire dragons? if not take a farseer on jet bike.. take a wraithseer too for the wraithguard and do not upgrade them to d-scythes.. the standard guns are fine.. do not hesitate to pile them into close combat ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7573200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7573200.page GMT [2000] - Eldar - Non Spam lol please DS next to my guardians... they want infintry to be in their faces. I have had guardians rip through terminators. BS4 with auto kills on 6's please They arent there to tar pit. I think your view of how eldar are supposed to be played has been skewed by wave serpent and jetbike spam. This list is not spammy AT ALL. I dont see a single unit that gets "spammed" You want spammy i can run a wave serpent list with minimal squads and 3 wraithknights. I literally own 7 wave serpents and 55 dire avengers. I can run that list but choose not to because I want to show people that Eldar can be run without the cheese. You laugh at this list and say it will get annihilated but I have won games in 7th edition with no wave serpents.


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Also star cannons are AP2. they kill elite infantry like they are nothing. I love to see centurions when i have my star cannons around. they literally cry. Every unit in the Eldar book is pretty good save for banshees and harlequins. Problem is people don't know HOW to play those units so they resort to wave serpent spam.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7580826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/634483/7580826.page GMT