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1)Captain of the empire-60
.full plate armour-6
.great weapon-6
72pts

2)10 swordsmen-70
.duelist-10
(didnt get banner or musician because its such a small unit)
80pts

3)15 handgunners-180pts

4) 10 greatswords-110
counts champion-10
120pts

5) 5 pistoliers-80

total-532 (he doesnt mind me going over points because he's over 25 points anyway)



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Tactics? Different unit options? What else to add on?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7598983.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7598983.page GMT [500] - empire http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7600602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7600602.page GMT [500] - empire
Drop greatswords +120
Drop captain +72
Drop five handgunners+45
Take a lvl2 wizard -100
Add 19 swordsmen to your existing block-133
And if he's ok with you being a point over take a dragon bane gem or something on your wizard for five points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7601477.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7601477.page GMT [500] - empire ok so

.drop all handgunners -180
.drop all pistoliers-80

.add 20 swordsmen to existing unit and get banner and musician +160
.add 6 greatswords to existing unit and get banner + 86

that way i can outnumber his 10 swordmasters with a captain and 16 greatswords. also, my 40 swordsmen can take on his wizard and envelop him, then my army that i have left (probz about 30 swords and 6 greatswords) can take his 5 super fast cavalry! thanks for help ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7603657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7603657.page GMT [500] - empire
Swordmasters will hit your greatswords on 3s with re-rolls due to ASF, then wound on 2s because of S5 leaving you with a 6+ armor save, and if you hit back (they have A2 each) you will be hitting on 4s no re-roll and wounding on 2s at S5, with will only have a ward save (if applicable).

Swordsmen will get armor/parry saves everywhere so they are the best counter (imo).

Also reason for having a wizard is for some ability to dispell, if he takes lore of fire and just six dices fire ball, don't even bother putting down your models.

On the other hand, you could run your 16 greatswords and run your swordsmen as 2 detachments of 15 in 3x5 for some counter charge. And you can swap your captain for a warrior priest, giving your army ward saves/re rolls to hit/re rolls to wound/flaming.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7604077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7604077.page GMT [500] - empire
20 swordsmen and captain with banner, musician and duelist-242pts

10 handgunners-120pts

20 swordsmen with duelist and - 150pts


so 20 swordsmen to go after enemy wizard, 10 handgunners to shoot down 5 cavalry, and captain+20 swordsmen to take on the swordmasters. thats the plan

thx for help



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 Arbiter wrote:


Swordmasters will hit your greatswords on 3s with re-rolls due to ASF



Not true, because of the great weapons asl they counter the asf and don't get any re-rolls, however they do have high initiative anyway.


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 blood ravens addiction wrote:
ok, now i understand,i mean im never going to use magic, but i see your point with swordsmen.

20 swordsmen and captain with banner, musician and duelist-242pts

10 handgunners-120pts

20 swordsmen with duelist and - 150pts


so 20 swordsmen to go after enemy wizard, 10 handgunners to shoot down 5 cavalry, and captain+20 swordsmen to take on the swordmasters. thats the plan

thx for help





You should play some khorne WOC or DOC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7607764.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7607764.page GMT [500] - empire
If you haven't built your pistoliers yet, I would build them as Outriders instead. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7608159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7608159.page GMT [500] - empire http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7610581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7610581.page GMT [500] - empire http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7610626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/636062/7610626.page GMT [500] - empire lol i got wrecked,

i decided on this list:
10 handgunners
20 swordsmen with captain
helblaster volley gun

my opponent had: (high elves)
wizard
5 fast cav
10 sea guard
10 swordmasters

i got really bad rolls and he got really good rolls, he killed everyone and i only managed to kill 8 models
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