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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey all. I have been reading through my friend's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span>:13, and I have gotten that army itch again. I would really like to start a 1000 point renegade army. However, I am not willing to spend $300+ for the all the infantry I need. Especially not the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> models, as I hate they way the current <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> look. I would really appreciate suggestions on other miniature companies that could fit my need.<br /> <br /> My idea for the army is a horde of cultists/civilians turned to chaos. I want the models to not look like professional soldiers. Robes/ bare torsos would work as cultists, as would regular/work clothes. Perhaps a pseudo-militia look as well. Variety would be great.<br /> <br /> Suggestions are appreciated and welcome.  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Could always buy used <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> troops then buy different 28mm scale heads to use instead, can make a huge difference in how they appear.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly it doesn't get cheaper than cultists from the dubs<br /> You can get a bunch fairly cheap off B Eay<br /> <br /> If you really need to be tight on cash you can always do feral worlds and go with some historical stuff off things like perry miniatures range. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Have a look here, might give you some ideas. <a href="http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here is how to get a Master of the Horde army built up to a good strength with civilian looking models.<br /> Step 1: Go to ebay<br /> <br /> Step 2: find most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> to dollar ratio<br /> <br /> Step 3: Buy about 150 cultists <br /> <br /> then think of modeling]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ae169344f3b5ccf1320346b3e90bc790.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640718/7683552.page"><b>welshhoppo wrote:</b></a><br/>Have a look here, might give you some ideas. <a href="http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You can also look here:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/demon-project-complete.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/demon-project-complete.html</a><br /> <br /> I didnt paint them up, but the models are really nice. Very decently priced as well. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ WOW, those mutants look amazing what models did you use to make them!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/Miniatures-of-the-North" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.anvilindustry.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/Miniatures-of-the-North</a><br /> <br /> I got some of their Death Korps Of krieg look a likes too. I think that model range is very nice.<br /> <br /> No conversions needed. <br /> <br /> Although the big thing is from forge word. <br /> <br /> Sorry, they are tox troopers,<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/Miniatures-of-the-North/Tox-Troopers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.anvilindustry.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/Miniatures-of-the-North/Tox-Troopers</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On this topic where in the world can you guy find Renegade Field Artillery? I wanted to use lobbas, but you can't buy that em anymore...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A decent mix of cadians, catachans (i hate the legs and torsos dont match because of the beltline though) along with chaos marauder heads and arms (you can pull heavily from fantasy on this) along with models from other companies make for a great ragtag looking bunch of heretics and defected guardsmen.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Empire Flagellants from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> are also a pretty cool.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Honestly it doesn't get cheaper than cultists from the dubs <br /> You can get a bunch fairly cheap off B Eay <br /> <br /> If you really need to be tight on cash you can always do feral worlds and go with some historical stuff off things like perry miniatures range. </div></blockquote> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Here is how to get a Master of the Horde army built up to a good strength with civilian looking models. <br /> Step 1: Go to ebay <br /> <br /> Step 2: find most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> to dollar ratio <br /> <br /> Step 3: Buy about 150 cultists <br /> <br /> then think of modeling</div></blockquote> That's true. However, there are only 10 or 15 unique poses for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> cultists. I really don't want to have that uniformity. Though if I decide to go the mixed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> route (with everything from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(383);'>WHF</span>), then I will definitely be picking up a good chunk of cultists.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ae169344f3b5ccf1320346b3e90bc790.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640718/7683552.page"><b>welshhoppo wrote:</b></a><br/>Have a look here, might give you some ideas. <a href="http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/2014/06/alternate-imperial-guard-models.html</a></div></blockquote> Thanks for the link! I unfortunately have already found most of these companies, but I'm glad I have a comprehnsive list now. Also, I should really check out puppetswar. They seem to have a lot of options.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>http://www.anvilindustry.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/Miniatures-of-the-North<br /> <br /> I got some of their Death Korps Of krieg look a likes too. I think that model range is very nice.<br /> <br /> No conversions needed. <br /> <br /> Although the big thing is from forge word. <br /> <br /> Sorry, they are tox troopers,<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/Miniatures-of-the-North/Tox-Troopers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.anvilindustry.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/Miniatures-of-the-North/Tox-Troopers</a></div></blockquote> I saw these while I was searching. I LOVE the flame troopers <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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</div><br /> They will definitely find a spot in my army somewhere. I also really like the high priest and command.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>A decent mix of cadians, catachans (i hate the legs and torsos dont match because of the beltline though) along with chaos marauder heads and arms (you can pull heavily from fantasy on this) along with models from other companies make for a great ragtag looking bunch of heretics and defected guardsmen. </div></blockquote> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Empire Flagellants from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> are also a pretty cool.</div></blockquote> As I said, I am hoping to avoid to using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> purely because of how expensive it would be to get 100+ models. However, if I do go that route, I would mix and match with a lot of the fantasy kits.<br /> <br /> I guess what I have to decide is whether I go with 28mm or suck it up and go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s heroic scale. I don't want to use both in the same army because of the size difference and loss of cross-compatible bits.<br /> If I go with another company, I would love to keep getting suggestions. I'm sure I've missed a lot of good companies out there.<br /> <br /> If I go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, I would like suggestions on what kits to use for my mix-n-match troops. So far it would be:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> - chaos cultists, cadians, catachans, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>INQ</span>, maybe throw in some of the old metal guard for variety<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(383);'>WHF</span> - beatmen, men-at-arms, free company, flagellants (lots of these guys), forsaken, and marauders<br /> <br /> Thanks for all the comments so far  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh right how did i forget<br /> <br /> I know they are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> buuuut Skaven clanrats make some pretty narly looking cultests. you can keep em rat man looking or you can cut off and replace the heads with gouly types too. <br /> <br /> very cheap from island of blood <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ^<br /> skree!<br /> <img src="http://mcgibs.com/junk/chaos-cultists.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> 40 of them was like, 20 dollars from ebay. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> wytch pistols fit perfectly on them. And skaven stormvermen make good special weapon carriers / sergeants, and are also cheap (20 for 20)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ca9176af58dbb019a0cc3d13730f0726.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640718/7684130.page"><b>dragoonmaster101 wrote:</b></a><br/>On this topic where in the world can you guy find Renegade Field Artillery? I wanted to use lobbas, but you can't buy that em anymore...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I am tempted to use these as medusa siege cannons <br /> <a href="http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/heavy-mortar." target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/heavy-mortar.</a><br /> <br /> <br /> I've been looking for alternate earth shaker cannons, but it is nearly impossible to find any at the right scale, mostly because long range artillery doesn't belong in a 28mm game.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ae169344f3b5ccf1320346b3e90bc790.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640718/7685249.page"><b>welshhoppo wrote:</b></a><br/>I've been looking for alternate earth shaker cannons, but it is nearly impossible to find any at the right scale, mostly because long range artillery doesn't belong in a 28mm game.</div></blockquote>There's a <i>very</i> nice-looking <a href="http://www.lasercutcard.co.za/shop/vehicles/heavy-artillery" target="_new" rel="nofollow">lasercutcard</a> artillery gun (click on the second picture to see the chaos version). It doesn't cost lots. However, I don't own one so cannot comment on the size, nor on the (lack of?) durability of "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(758);'>MDF</span>, card and plastic tubing".]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You could also look into getting some mageknight lots from eBay. Look for black powder revolutionaries from the 2.0 and up. That gives you a pile of rugged tough looking guys with old beat up weapons, and they may cost you $1 a piece. Just rebase them and you're good!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think there's anything cheaper than either A) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> starter set chaos cultists or B) Eisenkern Stormtroopers from Dreamforge. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/ca9176af58dbb019a0cc3d13730f0726.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/640718/7684130.page"><b>dragoonmaster101 wrote:</b></a><br/>On this topic where in the world can you guy find Renegade Field Artillery? I wanted to use lobbas, but you can't buy that em anymore...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thudd Guns and Heavy Mortars? That's on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> site. Speaking of, they're the one making the actual Renegade and Heretics models, but they're pretty darn expensive.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can check out the link in my sig if you want to see what 100 Krieg converted to Nurgle Renegades looks like :-P]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you don't mind repeating poses, warzone's old set is great.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://shop.princeaugust.ie/tg2420-1-warzone-mutant-chronicles-bag-of-80-plastic-soldiers/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://shop.princeaugust.ie/tg2420-1-warzone-mutant-chronicles-bag-of-80-plastic-soldiers/</a><br /> <br /> cheap, big, easy to assemble. though it will take some conversion works to get more poses, or guns.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Beyond that, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(383);'>WHF</span> empire millitia is rather easy to convert to some cool cultists/renegades (just add guns and you get a rabble)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:08:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BoomWolf]]></author>
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