http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Loc as my craftworld so I am sticking to the armor theme. I only need 1 more falcon to run this list so it'll probably happen pretty soon. On to the list:
Farseer - runes of witnessing, shining spear
Spiritseer
5 dragons - exarch included w/fire pike&fast shot - serpent BL's, cannon, holo fields
5 dragons - exarch included w/fire pike&fast shot - serpent BL's, cannon, holo fields
5 avengers (ride in a falcon)
5 avengers (ride in a falcon)
2 vypers - BL & cannon
Falcon - SL, cannon, holofields
Falcon - SL, cannon, holofields
fire prism - holo fields

So everything is mech'd up to start. The spirit seer is there for extra psychic buffing/debuffing (I like telepathy/runes of battle combo to buff) but I'm kinda at a loss as they can't cast when embarked, right? Might have to reconsider have 2 guardians blobs to hide them in so they can cast while the tanks to the work. Moving up to 1750-1850 I'm thinking of adding in a support battery with either vibro cannons or shadow weavers. Anyone with any experience fielding them? I think it's a pretty nifty idea.

Your C&C is appreciated. I am trying to stick to the armor theme, so please keep suggestions in that theme. I might lose the prism, but I want both falcons. Thanks!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7723264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7723264.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7723669.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7723669.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724569.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724632.page GMT
1. First thing I would do is get your Farseer a jetbike, the spirit stone and the mantle of the laughing god. Then for powers I suggest you use guide, presience and psychic shriek. This way he can keep up with your tanks and buff them on the fly. Psychic shriek will allow him to thin out or finish off any low leadership units.

2. Drop the Spirit seer. He just doesn't add that much to your force other then a couple of warp charges.

3. Drop one of your units of Fire dragons and lose the exarch in the second one he is really a waste of points. I would also suggest you exchange the Wave serpents BL for a SL instead to help take out hordes.

4. With the points you save from that I would put both of your Dire Avenger units in Wave Serpents kitted out the same way as your Fire dragons. This will give you to more objective secure units that are durable and shooty. 3 Wave serpents will also give you some much needed anti-air support.

5. Swap out the Vypers BL's for Star cannon's. They are cheaper and they also allow them to deal with any 2+ saves that come into play. And if you need them to take out armor use their maneuverability to get side armor if need be. I would also consider running them as 2 squads and getting them holo-fields to help with durability. Just be careful if you do so because they will give up first blood very easily.

6. Swap out one of your Falcons for an additional Fire Prism.

This will put you somewhere around 1500pts. I hope this helps you out a bit and that its not to many changes. Was trying to add as little as I could seeing as you already have most of the models for your list. Best of luck and if you have any questions feel free to ask!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724652.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7724652.page GMT SL or BL seems like a solid choice to deal with hordes. Especially when coupled with the shield. I will put a list of my models currently owned below so we can know what we have to work with:
farseer
spirit seer
fuegan
5 wraithguard
6 scorpions (exarch incl)
5 spiders (exarch incl)
5 reapers (exarch incl)
12 dragons (2 exarch incl)
10 avengers (exarch pw/ss)
20 guardians w/2 platforms
2 wave serpents
falcon
fire prism
2 vypers
2 war walkers

So I have a pretty big collection, with lots of aspect warriors. I like the idea of mech infantry, hence the 2 falcons rolling with the 2 serpents. The game I ran it I was astounded with the work it did in that 24" sweet spot against my tyranid opponent. Also, 9unit9 I would love to have a bunch of hornets zipping around, but that'll come later when I have FW money. I'd need 3 for a squadron at least to make it worth it in my opinion. 12 pulse lasers in 1 unit? Holy crap yes.

Ellethorn I do appreciate your idea of the farseer on a jetbike. I'm interested to see what the new book brings regarding eldar jetbikes and new models too I might have to proxy him as a jetbike just to see how I like him. So needless to say having all 4 of my grav tanks in the list is a must for me. SL, cannon and holo fields on the serpents, with cannon, SL and holo fields on my falcon too. Do you think i should have 5 avengers in the falcon for ObSec or put dragons in it? I figure 2 min size 5 man squads would work with the list, either in the falcon or in a serpent. So just an overview:

farseer - jetbike, mantle, stone
5 dragons - serpent - SL, cannon, holo fields
5 dragons - serpent - SL, cannon, holo fields
5 avengers
falcon - cannon, SL, holo fields
fire prism
2 vypers - star cannons & holo fields
2 war walkers w/bright lances (maybe 1 SL/BL?)

Didn't run the points so I don't know if I'm over or not (seems a little lacking in meat - bodies). Sticks with my theme but I'm not sold. Again I appreciate the feedback!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7728469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7728469.page GMT BL each .. the 6 str 8 shots per turn from the back line was enough to kill a land raider in 1 turn...in first game... rare you might say but it was glanced to death and it happened without a kaboom.. the vypers were only shot at twice in all 8 games and I lost one once only.. the rest of the 8 games they were free to fire their 1xSCanon 1xSL each.. 21 shots.. lots of dakka.. they ran interference along side the serpents and were invariably ignored in favour of the wave serps...

Also my 3 serpents had SL and SC so it was an insane amount of str 6/7 shooting.. 6 vehicles in a mob on a flank.litterally wiping out what they met..

So if you want to build a winning army at 1500 that uses vypers and falcon... i say..

Go for it!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7729134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7729134.page GMT Nevertheless, Falcons and Vypers are mediocre units.
Vypers have a role in a skimmer heavy gun line where they can fill gaps. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7730040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/642802/7730040.page GMT