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				<description><![CDATA[ <i>I guess the question you have to ask yourself today is, 'do I feel lucky?' Well, Punk? Do ya?</i><br /> <br /> For those who don't know, Hand Cannons are huge, high caliber pistols that would put Dirty Harry's magnum to shame. They appear frequently in the more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(345);'>RPG</span> based spin-offs of Warhammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. They have stat-lines in Inquisitor and Dark Heresy, and are mentioned in Necromunda fluff, but they've never appeared in the main <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> game.<br /> <br /> So this isn't a huge add-on, just a little tidbit for fun and flavor.<br /> <br /> <b>Inquisitorial Acolytes, Penal Legion Custodians, and Priests from an Astra Militarum or Adepta Sororitas army may swap out their Laspistol with a Hand Cannon for +2 pts. An Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord may swap out his Bolt Pistol for a Hand Cannon for free. A Hand Cannon has the following profile:<br /> <br /> Range: 12" S:5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>:6 Assault 1</b><br /> <br /> It's Assault 1, instead of being a Pistol, because it's described in the fluff as having so much kick that the user has to use both hands to fire to avoid breaking their wrists. So no +1 attack bonus in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. All the units and characters I gave the option to have a more "civilian" feel to them. The biggest thing I struggled with was whether the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>:5 was appropriate or if it should have no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>. In the end, I decided it needed more bang for the buck, no pun intended, and something that could potentially punch a hole in a light tank seems like it should also be able to get through flak armour! What do you think? Are the points and stat-line appropriate? Is there another unit that should have the Hand Cannon option?<br /> <br /> Edit: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> reduced to give it a little less power in comparison to the Bolt Pistol.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 12 Apr 2015 19:39:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why, exactly, is it higher Strength than a bolt pistol? 1d10+4 I vs. 1d10+5 X in Dark Heresy? I'm skeptical.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 00:40:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c9befceba99b8513348859bc6e9f2f49.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/644326/7747384.page"><b>AnomanderRake wrote:</b></a><br/>Why, exactly, is it higher Strength than a bolt pistol? 1d10+4 I vs. 1d10+5 X in Dark Heresy? I'm skeptical.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because it has to have some reason to take it instead of a Bolt Pistol. Otherwise, Assault 1 instead of pistol at 12" range is worse than a Bolt Pistol. I could take away the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> to make the Bolt Pistol look better, but making it a lower strength just makes it pointless.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 00:54:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ fallinq]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/41555b1e7f9aad574c7216d406f7c7cf.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/644326/7747402.page"><b>fallinq wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c9befceba99b8513348859bc6e9f2f49.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/644326/7747384.page"><b>AnomanderRake wrote:</b></a><br/>Why, exactly, is it higher Strength than a bolt pistol? 1d10+4 I vs. 1d10+5 X in Dark Heresy? I'm skeptical.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because it has to have some reason to take it instead of a Bolt Pistol. Otherwise, Assault 1 instead of pistol at 12" range is worse than a Bolt Pistol. I could take away the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> to make the Bolt Pistol look better, but making it a lower strength just makes it pointless.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So if you kept it lore accurate there would be no point in taking one? Why do we need rules for it, then? It would be pointless.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:09:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not sure it's entirely necessary, but I think these rules for it are fine from a mechanical perspective.  If people give you too much trouble over the high strength, consider making it strength 4 but with the ability to reroll 1s to wound.  This ups the average chance of it wounding without letting it take on bigger threats than the bolt pistol.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:14:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wyldhunt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's close enough in damage to a bolt pistol. Do you think <br /> rng12"  S4   <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>Ap</span>-  type: assault 1, rending<br /> would work?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 01:19:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Szeras]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When you said hand cannons, I thought it would be terminators or dreadnaughts carrying one time use demolisher/battle cannons. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:44:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Filch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2ccfbbac7f0eb469e83b1a5bf3ba0e03.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/644326/7749002.page"><b>Filch wrote:</b></a><br/>When you said hand cannons, I thought it would be terminators or dreadnaughts carrying one time use demolisher/battle cannons. </div></blockquote><br /> That would be really funny! You get an exalt!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:20:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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