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				<description><![CDATA[ Tell me what to think!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 3.0 E: 0.0 Tr: 3.0 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(35);'>FA</span>: 1.0 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span>: 2.0 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(495);'>LW</span>: 1.0 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(600);'>Fo</span>: 0.0<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Painboy (1 model) - 55pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Painboy - 55pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  4  2  3  3  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Urty Syringe<br /> Weapon2: None<br /> Other Options: Dok's Tools, Bosspole<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Painboy (1 model) - 55pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Painboy - 55pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  4  2  3  3  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Urty Syringe<br /> Weapon2: None<br /> Other Options: Dok's Tools, Bosspole<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Big Mek (1 model) - 85pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Big Mek - 85pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  4  2  3  3  8  6+<br /> Weapon1: Kustom Force Field<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs, Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> Lord of War - Stompa (1 model) - 773pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Stompa - 773pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  I  A  Fr Sd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(271);'>Rr</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span><br /> 4  2  10 1  4  13 13 12 12<br /> Weapon1: Deff Kannon<br /> Weapon2: 3 Supa-Rokkits<br /> Other Options: 3 Big Shootas, Skorcha, Supa-Gatler, Mega-Choppa, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Big Shoota<br /> <br /> Troop - Boyz (20 models) - 245pts<br /> Options: Stikkbombs, Eavy Armour (4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span>) - 80pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 19 Ork Boyz - 124pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Rokkit Launcha, Rokkit Launcha<br /> <br /> 1 Boss Nob - 41pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  4  2  3  3  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Power Klaw<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> Troop - Boyz (20 models) - 245pts<br /> Options: Stikkbombs, Eavy Armour (4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span>) - 80pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 19 Ork Boyz - 124pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Rokkit Launcha, Rokkit Launcha<br /> <br /> 1 Boss Nob - 41pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  4  2  3  3  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Power Klaw<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> Fast Attack - Warbikers (15 models) - 285pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 14 Warbikers - 252pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  5  1  2  2  7  4+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> 1 Warbiker Boss Nob - 33pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  4  5  2  3  3  7  4+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Bosspole<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Mek (1 model) - 15pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Mek - 15pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs, Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Mek (1 model) - 15pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Mek - 15pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs, Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Mek (1 model) - 15pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 1 Mek - 15pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs, Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> Heavy Support - Lootas (5 models) - 70pts<br /> Options: Stikkbombs - 0pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 2 Lootas - 28pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Deffgun<br /> Weapon2: None<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> Heavy Support - Lootas (5 models) - 70pts<br /> Options: Stikkbombs - 0pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 2 Lootas - 28pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Deffgun<br /> Weapon2: None<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> 1 Loota Mek - 14pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Choppa<br /> Other Options: Mek's Tools<br /> <br /> Troop - Gretchin (22 models) - 75pts<br /> ---------------------------------<br /> 20 Gretchin - 60pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 2  3  2  2  1  2  1  5  --<br /> Weapon1: Grot Blasta<br /> Weapon2: None<br /> Other Options:<br /> <br /> 1 Runtherd - 5pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Grabba Stikk<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs<br /> <br /> 1 Runtherd - 10pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> S  T  W  I  A  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(157);'>Sv</span><br /> 4  2  3  4  1  2  2  7  6+<br /> Weapon1: Slugga<br /> Weapon2: Grabba Stikk<br /> Other Options: Stikkbombs<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I played against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>ig</span> with this list, even gave him the list to point up against. With 10 Mek saves and a 5+ cover save (equivalent) he only killed 1 model. 4 others died when I destroyed his imperial knight. Is this list way too powerful for a casual game?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 02:17:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Powdakka]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't have my codex in front of me, but for some reason I thought you had to take a unit of 6 lootas to field 3 meks from it.  Regardless, I would chance this list a bit and have it come from the Ghazghkull Supplement so your Big Mek has access to a MEGA force Field or MFF which provides a 4++ against shooting.  Also, field a detachment from the regular ork codex so you can take the "Fixer Uppa" so you can have a 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span> along with your mekz repair rolls.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 02:42:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ghazkuul]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Try playing against eldar.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 03:25:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d81b47dfb9a4f54637b4fde9fe70169b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/648114/7823739.page"><b>Arbiter wrote:</b></a><br/>Try playing against eldar.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> First this is very hard to read.  You really shouldn't put the stats of the models on here.  I do believe it is against Dakka rules.  Second,  sure you can make it hard to kill.  But it will die to D weapons its that simple.  <br /> <br /> <br /> What about having the Bloodthirster with 8 D weapons charge?   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 04:23:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ balsak_da_mighty]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 5 lootas can replace 3 for 3 Meks. I didn't take a picture of the book, this is copied off of army builder mobile which isn't affiliated with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> at all. If a collection of words from a codex is a copyright issue then aren't all of our words owned by webster? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> like to have an admins take on this. As for my list I went up against an unbound <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>ig</span>, ba, vanilla marine army with a imperial knight list and demolished it, probably because I had first turn and killed half his army. Same would happen with eldar]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 11:03:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Powdakka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ All right - regardless of the copyright legality of what you've posted, Balsak's right - it's a pain to read. Take a look at how others here have formatted their lists to make it easier for folks to review. Otherwise you won't be getting any feedback other than "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>tl</span>;dr". <br /> <br /> So, let me get this straight - you've got a Stompa loaded with Meks to make it nigh-indestructible. Two choppy units of 20 boyz each with a Painboy to make 'em <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>, a unit of 20 Grots, two units of 5 Lootas, a Big Mek with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>, and a 15-man Biker unit.<br /> <br /> I get that one unit of Lootas rides in the Stompa w/ the Big Mek - sure. But what do the others do? Just hang out in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(686);'>B2B</span> contact behind him? Just because he's got a transport capacity of 20 doesn't mean he can transport more than one unit at a time. That second Loota unit seems like a waste of points to me. But I agree with Ghazkuul - if you want to make the Stompa indestructible go his route with the MFF and the Fixer Uppa.<br /> <br /> Here's the problem I see, though, you've got so much invested in keeping the Stompa alive that you don't really have enough punch with the rest of your army. Without any type of Fearless or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> control (you don't even have a bosspole on your Nobz in those units), those 2 Boyz Mobs will hit hard, but break apart easily. The Warbikers are good, but you're better off running them as three 5-man units so that you can grab objectives. Right now, they're your one mobile unit. Everything else in the army is going slow on foot.<br /> <br /> A smart opponent is going to avoid your Stompa and focus on destroying your Grotz and Boyz. Unless your opponent has D-weapons. Then they'll just take the Stompa apart.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 12:05:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Death By Monkeys]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[  Death By Monkeys is spot on with the assumption that your army doesn't have the punch to win at 2k..even with the Stompa.<br /> <br />   Ive ran many Stompa builds since they were legal to run and just recently tried a similar build to what you are showing.Some changes though,as was mentioned earlier in the thread,,yes get the Fixer uppers and use the MFF,so run a Ghazkull detatchement its a Must have!<br /> <br />  Also the Stompa will make any Ork units within 6" of it fearless so DO run 25-30 strong blobs around it,grots even work in this case.Wrap it up tight so no deep striking Melta crap can work you over.<br />   As for your bikers,,,I like to use Deffcoptas and buggies as my objective grabbers as I can get more units of them on the table.Its nice and nasty to have the big bliker blob,but its onoly one unit and that will be a liability.I still have yet to try a couple of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(710);'>manz</span> truck bombs..im thinking they would be quite usefull early in taking some high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> low <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> shots off the Stompa.<br /> <br />   I think your repair rolling Meks is a bit overboard...ive found that around 4 with one being a 3+ and oilers all around is a good mix.Heavy shooting armies are likely going to blow you off the board in 1-2 turns anyway.<br /> <br />   Ive also gone away from using lootas inside since now we can just take Mek <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span>`s.I prefer to use a single Tankbusta unit as they don't have to snap if the Stompa moves AND they confer the Tank Hunters SR to the Stompa.<br /> <br />   Either way ya go,you will have fun with it.Players love facing a Stompa and often are very intimidated by it but find out its just a big softy<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br />  Oh and also,you can fit any number of "Units" within it,,,Super heavy transport SR<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br />   Just cant exceed the transport capacity of course.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 14:00:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah, my bad - thanks. I forgot the super-heavy transport SR.<br /> <br /> Still - seems like points better spent elsewhere.<br /> <br /> As much fun as a Stompa can be, it's SO points inefficient compared to units that other lists can bring.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 15:14:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Death By Monkeys]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Orks - My stompa will not die!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ my squads were ard boys, so 4+ and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> and fearless as long as one stayed within the 6". As for taking lootas I wanted to stay in do just for the sake of showing my opponent that unbound is the only way you have to play. He obviously has a hard time making lists cuz he had mine to point up against and didn't hurt me. As for too many Mek tools, I was down to 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>hp</span> and had 9 at the end of the game so it works<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Hey mini jack where is it in the book that passengers give special rules to transports they're embarked on?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2015 17:20:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Powdakka]]></author>
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