<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Many questions about WAAAGH!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Many questions about WAAAGH! WAAAGH!

It is a psychic power, yes? So, can it be affected by pariahs? Like, will Culexus assasin around the Orks make physics work without being distorted in favor of the orks, thus breaking gargants etc.

Can this Culexus or some psyker destroy Ork's soul?

How does the WAAAGH! influence the Warp? (Don't tell me that they don't influence each other, orks can be influenced by Warp 'cuz weirboys start to see Gork&Mork during warp-storms)

Do Squig and Gretchin make WAAAGH!? Do bigger orks make more WAAAGH!?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889325.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889325.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
Waaagh energy is generated by orkoid creatures but isn't a psychic power in any specific sense. Orks are marginally more psychic than ordinary humans but a Culexus would have no significantly greater effect upon them than any other creature who all find them abhorrent.

I recall no specific reference to Waaagh energy having any effect on the Warp but it is mentioned in the latest Codex (page 25) that there are more Waaaghs due to, and where, the Warp is more turbulent. If we place weight on the Anzion Theorem of Psychic-Physical Growth of Orkoids then ork spores mature better with more orks around and it would appear that a turbulent Warp enhances the gestalt psychic field which orks are sensitive too, making spores even more viable still.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889420.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7889440.page GMT Re:Many questions about WAAAGH! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7890848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7890848.page GMT Re:Many questions about WAAAGH!
 cox.dan2 wrote:
The Waaagh! is more like a battlecry used by the Orks to inspire them.


There's that and it is a gestalt presence of all of the pent up energy of the orks, which weirdboyz can use to do some freaky stuff. Orks like to call many things WAAAAGH!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7890900.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7890900.page GMT Re:Many questions about WAAAGH!
 cox.dan2 wrote:
The Waaagh! is more like a battlecry used by the Orks to inspire them.


WAAAGH - 1) ork battlecry 2) massive ork army 3) psychic energy that makes things work proppa]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7891097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7891097.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
As far as tech working.... again, there might be something to it, but a big part of it is an explanation as to why the adeptus mechanicus can't figure out how the damn stuff works, and can't make it work once it's been captured.

Also, a culexus' blank ability isn't that big. If he were to sneak onto a gargant, it's quite possible that the guns he's stood near might malfunction or explode*, but that's not going to wreck the whole gargant. Even if a gargant starts malfunctioning or siezing up, it tends to be so massively over-engineered that it doesn't really matter.



* More than normal.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7891211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7891211.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH! GW fluff collective Ork psychic ability is actually rather more subtle than the 'wurks cause we think it will hur hurr' school of thought seems to believe.

Ork Meks are genuine mechanic-engineers who build viable vehicles and weaponry that operate within the bounds of physics. Most Orky devices operate like other races tek, they're just haphazard and rather slapdash. The Orky gestalt seemingly just gives things a little push if they don't quite work.

Note that in recent versions of the Ork Codex abilities like the Red Paint Job that are dependent on collective Ork psychic influence have been nerfed pretty hard. Ork fluff in GW publications hasn't gone down that rabbit hole for some years, however wonky and reliable Orky tek may be.

I doubt very much that a Culexus would cause Ork weapons to malfunction dramatically. Perhaps if a weapon needed the gestalt push to operate it might not fire, but it wouldn't jam or explode. Well, at least it wouldn't jam or explode any more than normal. Weapons that work 'normally' would be totally unaffected.

Of course, Orks would have the usual difficulties overcoming their revulsion or targeting a Culexus, and their Weirdboyz and Warpheadz would be as vulnerable to a Culexus as any other psyker.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915342.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915353.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
 Gogsnik wrote:
Don't put too much (as in none!) emphasis on the idea that ork technology works because they think it does. That is an in-universe theory by Genetor Lukas Anzion. .

It is much more solid than that. There are a lot more sources mentioning it, including "official" GW and FW ones. It is even codified in the rules (red things go faster)
In fact, I struggle to recall anything that actually goes against it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915583.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
 Psienesis wrote:
It should be noted, however, that a Culexus is just as vulnerable to a choppa to the dome as any other human.

Well not really - the Etherium bodysuit that Culexus Temple Assassins wear partially shifts them out of reality, making them basically intangible. This is represented on the table-top with all enemies needed to roll a 6 to hit them with any attack.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915676.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
 Iron_Captain wrote:
It is much more solid than that. There are a lot more sources mentioning it, including "official" GW and FW ones. It is even codified in the rules (red things go faster)
In fact, I struggle to recall anything that actually goes against it.


Off the top of my head I cannot say what those other sources might be but as far as red ones go faster, that has always been in the ork background. As for anything disproving it, how about the fact that ork tech does work for humans? Ork Hunters, Yarrick, Caiphas Cain riding around in an ork trukk et cetera. Ork tech works because it is perfectly viable tech.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915704.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915922.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
It is much more interesting, unique, flavorful than Ork Weirdboyz are skilled engineers. In a universe of artisans, it is nice to have a faction which decisively subverts that artisan work is better theme throughout 40k.

I can understand how some Ork players may not like it, but I find it charming, yes amusing, but also more magical than the alternative. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915955.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/651725/7915955.page GMT Many questions about WAAAGH!
 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Well, to explain it working for Yarrick, as orks believe he is the only humie 'ard enough to be a real fight for an ork, they believe in him, allowing the tech to work in his hands.


Or the even more simple explanation: it's a fully functioning piece of equipment.

Here's what Ere We Go has to say about Red Wunz Go Faster!

It is not known whether red ones really do go faster but the Ork drivers certainly believe it, and drive with an even greater reckless determination. This may actually have the effect of pushing the capability of the engine to the extreme and squeezing a few extra miles an hour out of the machine; at the risk of even more bits falling off.


Simple, strait forward and rational: the ork believes his red vehicle will go faster because it is red and pushes it to the limit of its capabilities (or perhaps even beyond them) because of that belief. If the vehicle were another colour he wouldn't push it so hard, believing, erroneously, that it would not be as capable because of the lack of red paint. It's also worth pointing out that red is supposed to be a colour that is hard to come by for orks and hence why not all their vehicles are painted red, despite their superstitious beliefs. Only orks that have the teef can afford red paint and it stands to reason that such an ork would also be able to afford getting a Mek to tinker with the machine and improve it. So, either by having an actually superior machine, or simply driving more recklessly, the red one does go faster but it has nothing to do with any psychic guff.

As for other items of technology, their workings are no more mysterious than Biff Tannen being the only one who can start his car in Back To The Future, it requires a knack to get it to work, something that may well be inherent to the orky mindset but less so for a Techpriest but certainly not one that requires some kind of psychic magic that lets a box of scrap with a tube in the front suddenly shoot bullets just because an ork thinks it will.

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