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What if the following were the rules for Deep Strike scattering?
-When Deep Striking, place and roll as normal.
-Upon scattering into a Mishap, note the location. Roll scatter as per Deep Strike from this location.
--Repeat as necessary until either:
---A: Legally placeable location is selected, or
---B: Roll a Direct Hit on a location that would Mishap

Situation A places as normal. Situation B results in a roll on the mishap table, as normal.

Some tack-on ideas:
-If mishapping off the table, resume from the closest point on the board edge
-Perhaps force a Dangerous Terrain test for each time Scatter had to be redone?

I'm not sure if this rule would be better. I was just curious what you would think of such an idea?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7917349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7917349.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
1-2: Unit is not placed on the table, becomes a casualty.
3-5: Models that are unable to be placed are not placed and removed as casualties, but the rest of the squad is placed normally.
6: Unit goes back in reserves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7917388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7917388.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7918293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7918293.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away) tbh]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7920231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7920231.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 Dakkamite wrote:
Its not nearly restricted enough mate. Bit sick of all the 'tactical geniuses' and their deep strike melta dudes tbh


Bubble wrap?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7920258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7920258.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 Dakkamite wrote:
Its not nearly restricted enough mate. Bit sick of all the 'tactical geniuses' and their deep strike melta dudes tbh


I can't remember the last time someone was able to melta something I cared about. With BA, even. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929117.page GMT Re:Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away) SM players trying to defend their precious one hit win button skyhammer formation.

Why are we not surprised?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929332.page GMT Re:Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 master of ordinance wrote:
Oh look. More SM players trying to defend their precious one hit win button skyhammer formation.

Why are we not surprised?


How do you know he is a space marine player? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7929349.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
Oh, look. Another player that's salty about power creep.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7930016.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7930016.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
Martel732 wrote:
 Dakkamite wrote:
Its not nearly restricted enough mate. Bit sick of all the 'tactical geniuses' and their deep strike melta dudes tbh


I can't remember the last time someone was able to melta something I cared about. With BA, even.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7931858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7931858.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
Assaulty deepstrikers can generally move fast enough that they can afford to aim their deepstrike for a relatively safe spot. Shooty deepstrikers generally have ways of reducing their scatter or else have enough range that they can aim for a safe spot. Warp spiders have battle focus.

My issue with mishaps isn't that they happen too often. It's that when they do happen, there's potential for a feelbad moment. When I lose a unit to a bad mishap result, it's not exactly fun. When my opponent loses a unit to a bad mishap result, I'm glad I don't have to deal with said unit, but it's still not exactly fun. It's more, "Oh... Ouch. That sucks. I hope your luck doesn't stay that bad all game, or we're in for an unpleasant session of gaming." I'm not really unhappy with the mishap rules as they stand, but were I to change them, I'd focus on simply making mishaps less of a fun-wrecker. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932022.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 TranSpyre wrote:
The Skyhammer formation is in pods, which already don't mishap unless they go off the table.

Oh, look. Another player that's salty about power creep.


And has every right to be considering the SM'sstole some of the really cool thing from his codex, said codex which was mediocre when it came out and is now a joke.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932290.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932290.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 master of ordinance wrote:
 TranSpyre wrote:
The Skyhammer formation is in pods, which already don't mishap unless they go off the table.

Oh, look. Another player that's salty about power creep.


And has every right to be considering the SM'sstole some of the really cool thing from his codex, said codex which was mediocre when it came out and is now a joke.


Once you've gotten over your little rant, would you care to explain how this suggestion would buff the Skyhammer Formation?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7932508.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away)
 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
 master of ordinance wrote:
 TranSpyre wrote:
The Skyhammer formation is in pods, which already don't mishap unless they go off the table.

Oh, look. Another player that's salty about power creep.


And has every right to be considering the SM'sstole some of the really cool thing from his codex, said codex which was mediocre when it came out and is now a joke.


Once you've gotten over your little rant, would you care to explain how this suggestion would buff the Skyhammer Formation?


I wouldnt. It will nerf it. But then we see the usual crowd coming in to prevent anything that could potentially harm their precious DS meta.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7933227.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7933227.page GMT Deep Strike: Scatter Happens (More likely to place, but could be further away) CWE always use the CAD and never the formations, why would my SM flock to Skyhammer?

Although, admittedly the Demi company is tempting. Most of my SM lists have practically been that since i first assembled my Battle Box (Devs and a Captain were my first purchases).

This wouldn't change things a lot. But it would certainly help Skyhammer ASMs. It would actually nerf Grav Pods though. Slightly.

The biggest thing it'd do is make DSers come in out of position more often. In a random position. Potentially anywhere, but highly biased towards the general area they tried to come in.

Its probably more effort than its worth. I just thought it'd be fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7933482.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/653167/7933482.page GMT