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				<description><![CDATA[ So, if you have 2 CWW when you charge, you get +1A. A pistol counts as this when charging. But what if I take a sword and another sword? Why would I ever do that if I trade all of my potential shooting for the same bonus as a pistol that gets a token attempt to shoot.<br /> <br /> So, I would propose that if you charge into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> you get +1A for having a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>+ pistol, +2A for having 2 CWW of some kind. specialist weapons only get this bonus if they have 2 of the SAME specialist weapons.<br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> +1A for having pistol+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, +1A + shred for having 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. You re roll 1s and 2s if you already have shred and specialist weapons only get this for having 2 of the same specialist weapons.<br /> <br /> Now when I model a cool berzerker or something with 2 chainaxes and he looks awesome because he is awesome, its not a loose- loose situation.There is also a reason to take dual lightning claws now. (ninja warp talon buff!)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2015 04:45:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:42:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:07:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Powerfisting]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7973662.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uhh...<br /> Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll <b>all</b> failed wounds.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 11 Jul 2015 01:59:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ond Angel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/404b63a9297106bb1a143b4c37dc6c7e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7974183.page"><b>Ond Angel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7973662.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uhh...<br /> Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll <b>all</b> failed wounds.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You've been playing it right.  It feels lame not getting something for loading up on double swords, but it seems like this has potential to dramatic alter the way some units play.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 11 Jul 2015 02:03:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wyldhunt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7974186.page"><b>Wyldhunt wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/404b63a9297106bb1a143b4c37dc6c7e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7974183.page"><b>Ond Angel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7973662.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uhh...<br /> Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll <b>all</b> failed wounds.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You've been playing it right.  It feels lame not getting something for loading up on double swords, but it seems like this has potential to dramatic alter the way some units play.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I agree it's good for loading up on two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>/2 identical specialist <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, claws are going to get shafted.<br /> Also, from the way this is worded, I could take a power axe & power maul and would have Shred due to having 2CCW.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 11 Jul 2015 02:28:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ond Angel]]></author>
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				<title>Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/404b63a9297106bb1a143b4c37dc6c7e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7974183.page"><b>Ond Angel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7973662.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uhh...<br /> Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll <b>all</b> failed wounds.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, no. I have to read this game better.  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I suppose shuffling around with special rules is tricky. Would the first option in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> be viable? I was looking for some way to grant bonuses for having 2 weapons and no shooting, but wanted to be a little creative. Just granting another attack seems uninspired.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 11 Jul 2015 15:06:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7975108.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/404b63a9297106bb1a143b4c37dc6c7e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7974183.page"><b>Ond Angel wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5e090f37d21e0fbd4635903707cff4bc.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7973662.page"><b>Powerfisting wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3e3658d31e492ba0667b96398a3bc45f.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/655791/7971961.page"><b>Talon of Anathrax wrote:</b></a><br/>The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing. <br /> The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> normal weapons would get shred for having 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Uhh...<br /> Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll <b>all</b> failed wounds.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, no. I have to read this game better.  <img src="/s/i/a/504660322487159bb25fddaa475847a6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I suppose shuffling around with special rules is tricky. Would the first option in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> be viable? I was looking for some way to grant bonuses for having 2 weapons and no shooting, but wanted to be a little creative. Just granting another attack seems uninspired.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Re-roll failed hits seems like  a good idea <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> That way it's not just "Cool, have more attacks".]]></description>
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