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Assuming a somewhat analogous system in the Imperial Guard and the US army, what would be the appropriate rank for a Tank Commander? For a Company commander? For a Platoon commander?

Thanks guys, I am being silly and want to name my guys. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8050780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8050780.page GMT Ranks???
Company Commanders tend to vary, but Captain or Lieutenant seems about right, although you could have Majors or Colonels (but these are a lot less common or likely to be seen on the front lines.)

Platoon Commanders are most likely Lieutenants or some kind of Sergeant, perhaps Gunnery Sergeants or Staff Sergeants.

That said, I have very little military experience, but I do have a copy of the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer.


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Actually, there are instances of Captains leading Platoons directly, such as Captain Al'Rahem.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8050846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8050846.page GMT Ranks??? 40K ranking isn't exactly equal to real world ranking, but I use this:

Enlisted Soldiers;
Standard Guardsmen- Trooper.
Standard Sergent- Corporal/Lance Corporal optional, but at least one Sergant minimum.
Veteran Guardsmen- Corporal.
Veteran Sergent- Sergent.

Enlisted Officers;
Platoon Commander- 1st Lieutenant.
Company Commander- Captain. (This would be your CCS officer or Tank Commander)
Battalion (several Companies) Commander- Major.
Brigade (several Battalions) Commander- Lieutenant Colonel.
Regiment (several Brigades) Commander- Colonel.

Guad doesn't seem to go higher than Regiments unless there's a crusade, so Colonel is the max.

I don't know if these ranks are exactly accurate and I'm no solider but it's a sci fi army so you can have some leeway in terms of rank.


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Major Durra (Elysians) is in charge of D-99.

The Elysian 181st has the following officers;
Colonel Taihon
Captain Gerek (A Company)
Captain Thansdadt (F Company)
Captain Doam
Captain Rylr
Captain Nybur
Captain Xhyst (F Company)
Captain Dexler (H Company)

The 181st consists of Companies A through J (ten companies), and is led by a Colonel and seven Captains.

Interestingly, two of the captains are noted as belonging to F Company. This might be a typo though.

We also have a squad noted as being made up of nine Troopers led by a Sergeant, and a Heavy Weapon squad being a Sergeant and five Troopers.

In the Kriegers, we have a few more individuals;

Lieutenant DKIG//2L//128/12 - C was the second-in-command of his regiment's third company. He was the Tank Commander of a Leman Russ Vanquisher.

Marshal Karis Venner was the commander-in-chief of the 17th Line Korps regiment (Marshal being his rank)

Krieg squads are led by a 'Watchmaster' rather than a 'Sergeant'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051051.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051051.page GMT Ranks???
 Psienesis wrote:
You would be better off comparing the IG to the British Army, not the US Army.


That is common sense but it doesn't really ring true as both IG & Space Marines use Squads commanded by a Sergeant both of which are decidedly American: The British equivalent of a Squad is a Section and it's commanded by a Corporal. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051105.page GMT Ranks???
Your unit make-up is going to determine who leads your squad in the Army. Often, it won't be an E-5, it will be an E-4 (Corporal or Specialist), with the whole platoon (4 squads, on average) being lead by a Sergeant of E-5 to E-7 grade, under a 2nd or 1st Lieutenant (O-1 to O-2). The Company (4 Platoons, on average) is lead by a First Sergeant (E-8) under a Captain (O-3).

ETA: With the IG, of course, there's no such thing as a standardized Rank structure, and each Regiment is going to follow whatever structure its homeworld has. It may or may not have multiple-grades of enlisted soldiers and NCOs, it may or may not have multiple types of Lieutenants and Colonels. It might have 9 grades of Captain, 15 various types of Sergeants and 147 classifications of "Private".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8051139.page GMT Ranks??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_organization#Modern_hierarchy.

A good bet would be to make Platoon Commanders as Lieutenants and Company/Tank Commanders as Captains (if you're talking about the units on the tabletop). Keep in mind though that there really is no fixed structure in the Imperial Guard, due to how big and unwieldy it is as an organisation (which applies to anything related to the Adeptus Administratum as a whole really). There's every reason to make variations as you see fit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8052718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8052718.page GMT Ranks??? FW books, the codices and also on the Lexicanum.
Tank Commander seems to be a rank in its own right rather than just a position. I don't recall them ever being called something else except commander.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8052793.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8052793.page GMT Ranks??? IG codex sense would be the colonel or major of a tank regiment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8053487.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8053487.page GMT Ranks???
 Furyou Miko wrote:
A tank commander is the officer in charge of a single tank. The 'tank commander' in the IG codex sense would be the colonel or major of a tank regiment.

No, I think the codex is very clear on this:
A Tank Commander will always be found leading a squadron of Leman Russ battle tanks

In every single instance, the officer in charge of a tank squadron is referred to always as 'Tank Commander', never by another rank. I also don't think they control entire regiments, the codex just talks about squadrons. A Tank Commander is probably equivalent to a Company Commander in an infantry regiment.
In that case he might hold the rank of captain, which seems to be the most common title for Company Commanders. But as the codex says, he could have any possible title, because each regiment uses different titles for the same ranks depending on their culture:
An Imperial army on campaign may contain companies led by majors, captains, hetmen,
demiconsuls, knights militant, chieftains and dozens more. However their soldiers address
them, Company Commanders all bear the same responsibilities.
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Commander
Driver
Primary Gunner
Primary Loader

Plus secondary weapon controllers and possibly a comms officer.

For example, in the Fall of Orpheus book, one of the named personae is a Krieger lieutenant. He is described as being the 'tank commander' of a Leman Russ Vanquisher.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8055029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8055029.page GMT Ranks???
I've left out some enlisted and officer ranks deliberately including Gunnery Sargent (E7), Major (O4) and Lieutenant Colonel (O5) that if I remember right tended to have support roles rather than direct command at some specific tier. I'm a little fuzzy though on whether it was Lieutenant Colonel or Major over Batallion and Colonel over Regiment (multiple batallions).

I was basic infantry not tanks and have no idea how there command structure worked. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8062475.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8062475.page GMT Re:Ranks???
Guardsman = Private
Corporal = Lance Corporal - commands half the squad
Sergeant = Corporal - commands the squad
Veteran Sergeant = Sergeant, Staff/Colour, and Warrant Officers - command staff

As for the officer ranks, the Guard only has slight discrepancies: the rank of Captain is company 2nd-in-command in the British Army but company commander in the Guard with no specific rank filling the British equivalent. And what the Guard call a regiment, the British Army would call a battalion, with a regiment being made up of multiple battalions.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8062952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8062952.page GMT Ranks??? IG regiment.

Paraphasing the imperial munitorum manual I have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8077730.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8077730.page GMT Ranks??? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8077737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8077737.page GMT Re:Ranks??? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8078718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/660045/8078718.page GMT