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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi Dakka,   <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br /> it's the first time I will try to make a battle report.    <img src="/s/i/a/9576fdd015edbd19edbaabd1556a4944.gif" border="0"> <br /> So, this monday, I will confront a Space Marines list with my own Space Marines list.<br /> I'm curious to know what you think about the two.<br /> <br /> This is my friend's one, the "Space Hunters" (I may have forgotten  some equipement here and there):<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <font color='red'> Space Hunters </font><br /> Chapter Tactics: Iron Hands.<br /> <br /> Captain (jump pack, lightning claw, power fist and gorgon's chain)<br /> Chaplain (terminator armour).<br /> 5 assault terminators (3 with thunder hammers) in a land raider redeemer (multimelta)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad (10 marines, plasma cannon, melta, combi-melta) in rhino<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad (10 marines, plasma cannon, melta, combi-melta) in rhino<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad (10 marines, melta, combi melta, multimelta) in a drop pod<br /> 1 vindicator<br /> 1 vindicator<br />  assault squad marines (10 marines, jump packs, two flammers, veteran sergeant with power axe)<br /> Stormtalon (skyhammer)<br /> <br /> <font color='red'> 50 wounds, 21hp, 47 models and 7 vehicles  </font><br /> <br /> 
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</div><br /> <br /> Now my list:<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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<br /> <font color='blue'> Iron Storm </font><br /> Chapter Tactics: Ultramarines<br /> <br /> Chaplain (jump pack)<br /> 10 sternguard (2 melta, 5 combi-melta, melta bombs, drop pod).<br /> Ironclad (two hunter-killer missiles, one melta, one heavy flammer, ironclad grenades launcher, drop pod)<br /> 8 vanguard veterans (jump packs, 4 powers swords, 1 pair of lightnings claws)<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines (plasma gun, combi plasma, plasma cannon, rhino) <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines (plasma gun, combi plasma, missiles launcher, rhino) <br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines (flammer, combi flammer, missiles launcher, drop pod with LMD) <br /> Land Speeder Typhoon<br /> Land Speeder Typhoon<br /> Vindicator<br /> Predator (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ac</span>, two lascannons)<br /> Thunderfire cannon<br /> <br /> <font color='blue'> 52 wounds, 28hp, 50 models and 9 vehicles. </font><br /> <br /> 
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</div><br /> <br /> <br /> He already played this list, for me, it will be the first time (but I played with some very very close lists).<br /> <br /> <font color='red'> Why he will win: </font><br /> -air superiority: I have no flyer, and zero anti aircraft gun, while he has a flyer<br /> - hand to hand superiority: he has more and best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>hth</span> units, if he catch me he kills me<br /> - he has slightly less <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> (14 vs 17)<br /> <br /> <font color='blue'> Why I will win: </font><br /> -Alpha stike: if he doesn't pay attention, I can make a huge alpha stike with all my melta<br /> -Mobility: land speeders and drop pod assure me to be where I need to be<br /> - I slightly outgun him.<br /> <br /> Last time we played, we did a Space Marines scenario from the old expansion "missions <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span> batailles" (battle missions ?), and we ended on a draw (it was a good game !).<br /> It probably won't be a maelstrom of war, because I hate that^^<br /> My main issue is his Hell captain, who can single-handed almost every squad I have and is protected behind his assault squad cannon fodder.<br /> <br /> So, let's me know what you think about this matchup !  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Aug 2015 01:48:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>[Poll] -2000pts- Marines vs Marines this monday</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Flyer list because of two vindicators]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Aug 2015 07:25:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Righteousrob]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What make the most of you think that I will win ?<br /> The heavy antitank drop I can do T1 ?<br /> Anyway, thanks for your replies !]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:38:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ godardc]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Spoiler alert: a marine army will win.<br /> <br /> In seriousness, the non flyer list, a properly done marine alpha strike is brutal]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:20:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ War Kitten]]></author>
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