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				<title>[1850] - Space Wolves + IK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 1850 Space Wolves + Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment<br /> <br /> Hello guys, i'm trying to build a competitive list and i would love some advices about the next list<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> + Warlord<br /> <br /> Harald DeathWolf - 190 pts<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> <br /> 10 Grey Hunters ( 10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, 2x MeltaGun ) Drop Pod  - 225 pts<br /> 10 Grey Hunters ( 10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>, 2x MeltaGun, Wolf Standard ) Drop Pod  - 250 pts<br /> 15 Blood Claws - StormWolf ( 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> MultiMelta ) - 415 pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> <br /> 3 Thunderwolf Cavalry ( <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(195);'>WC</span> ) - 235 pts<br /> Empty Drop Pod - 35 pts<br /> <br /> Lord of War<br /> <br /> Gerantius The Forgotten Knight - 500 pts<br /> <br /> Maybe i'm lacking AntiAir? Is Gerantius the best IK choice? Opinions?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:17:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shinowa]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Space Wolves + IK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Consider going Company of the Great Wolf and using your Grey Hunter models as Wolf Guard. You drop the Wolf Standard and get 2 attacks per model, anyway, because they're Wolf Guard. You only spend 15 points more, overall, if you go with 4 Combi-Meltas, and both units always get the 2 attacks, regardless of proximity to one another (Wolf Standards are pretty unreliable for hitting more than one unit). Or you can save 5 points, overall, by just using 1 Combi-melta per squad. And you get a better Leadership and a +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> to all the Wolf Guard and all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>, though you do lose Objective Secured. Consider, too, dropping one Storm Shield off your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> unit. For Invulnerable saves, model placement and Look Out, Sir!-ing the Pack Leader should do as much as you need. For volume of fire, you're rolling 3+ either way, and Invulnerable saves won't save you.<br /> <br /> I don't know Iron Knights at all, so I'm no help there, but that ~is~ a pretty complete lack of anti-air... Depends on how your local community runs things, though. If no one brings flyers, it doesn't matter... Alternately, you could drop the Blood Claws and add some Long Fangs. Or just drop ~some~ of the Blood Claws and add some Long Fangs... Long Fangs with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> synergize pretty well... Icarus guns and Quad guns only Snap Fire against ground forces, but Long Fangs have Split Fire and usually an Ancient without a heavy weapon (and Split Fire is no longer dependent on the Ancient not shooting), so it works out reasonably well. Having some Lascannons and Missile Launchers in your backfield can make up for less Melta up front, too.<br /> <br /> Just some thoughts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:34:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zbg97]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Space Wolves + IK</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6c1cc9eed5a85e63bf1c2b99f31a2e8a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/661953/8089877.page"><b>zbg97 wrote:</b></a><br/>Consider going Company of the Great Wolf and using your Grey Hunter models as Wolf Guard. You drop the Wolf Standard and get 2 attacks per model, anyway, because they're Wolf Guard. You only spend 15 points more, overall, if you go with 4 Combi-Meltas, and both units always get the 2 attacks, regardless of proximity to one another (Wolf Standards are pretty unreliable for hitting more than one unit). Or you can save 5 points, overall, by just using 1 Combi-melta per squad. And you get a better Leadership and a +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> to all the Wolf Guard and all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span>, though you do lose Objective Secured. Consider, too, dropping one Storm Shield off your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> unit. For Invulnerable saves, model placement and Look Out, Sir!-ing the Pack Leader should do as much as you need. For volume of fire, you're rolling 3+ either way, and Invulnerable saves won't save you.<br /> <br /> I don't know Iron Knights at all, so I'm no help there, but that ~is~ a pretty complete lack of anti-air... Depends on how your local community runs things, though. If no one brings flyers, it doesn't matter... Alternately, you could drop the Blood Claws and add some Long Fangs. Or just drop ~some~ of the Blood Claws and add some Long Fangs... Long Fangs with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>ADL</span> synergize pretty well... Icarus guns and Quad guns only Snap Fire against ground forces, but Long Fangs have Split Fire and usually an Ancient without a heavy weapon (and Split Fire is no longer dependent on the Ancient not shooting), so it works out reasonably well. Having some Lascannons and Missile Launchers in your backfield can make up for less Melta up front, too.<br /> <br /> Just some thoughts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> Thank you for your advice ! Greatly needed <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:37:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shinowa]]></author>
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