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Something like this

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 Selym wrote:
Sounds like something that would happen if the Munitorum wasn't doing the supply lines. Mostly I think it would just be an order form astropath'd to the nearest Forge World.
Remember that Munitorum only handles the logistics of Imperial Guard and Imperial Navy.

Armed forces of individual planets/systems rely on domestic manufacturing and imported weapons, so yes, these could be happening in some parts of the Imperium.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089570.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089570.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
Individual worlds could certainly have free market economies where the sale and distribution of small arms is unregulated. We just never hear about it because it's all on a planetary scale, which really doesn't concern most things regarding the war game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089588.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
jareddm wrote:
Absolutely. The vast majority of weaponry classified as stub guns or auto guns don't need a forgeworld to manufacture. Any major industrial world is going to be a gun manufacturer or two.
Anything you can build on a Forge World, you can build on a normal, industrialised world. It's just that the power-hungry Tech-Priests don't allow some technologies to wider manufacture, because this would weaken their position in the Mechanicus. This is why sometimes when a Forge World is lost, the technologies they produced are lost.

jareddm wrote:
Their operations would most likely just have a tech priest adviser or overseer to make sure everything stays up to code.
Most propably not, if the tech/blueprints didn't come from the Mechanicus. If, however, the blueprints did come from Mechanicus, and they got access to some rarer stuff only produced on a (specific) Forge World, then they would get Mechanicus personnel to watch over the production.

jareddm wrote:
Individual worlds could certainly have free market economies where the sale and distribution of small arms is unregulated. We just never hear about it because it's all on a planetary scale, which really doesn't concern most things regarding the war game.
Imperium itself is a free market economy. Goods and resources are transferred between planets and systems. Too bad we never get any fluff about this.

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Finlandiaperkele wrote:
jareddm wrote:
Absolutely. The vast majority of weaponry classified as stub guns or auto guns don't need a forgeworld to manufacture. Any major industrial world is going to be a gun manufacturer or two.
Anything you can build on a Forge World, you can build on a normal, industrialised world. It's just that the power-hungry Tech-Priests don't allow some technologies to wider manufacture, because this would weaken their position in the Mechanicus. This is why sometimes when a Forge World is lost, the technologies they produced are lost.

Highly doubtful. There is no evidence that the likes of titans or warp drives are capable of being built outside of the specialized equipment found on forge worlds, whereas there is evidence of hand weapons and basic vehicle manufacturers being granted rites by the Adeptus Mechanicus to produce standardized equipment with little or no supervision.

Finlandiaperkele wrote:
jareddm wrote:
Individual worlds could certainly have free market economies where the sale and distribution of small arms is unregulated. We just never hear about it because it's all on a planetary scale, which really doesn't concern most things regarding the war game.
Imperium itself is a free market economy. Goods and resources are transferred between planets and systems. Too bad we never get any fluff about this.
Not in terms of military-grade weaponry it's not. Especially not for the use of the Imperial Guard. The Adeptus Administratum and by extension the Departmento Munitorum regulate the materials available and direct what goods are assigned where.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089666.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
jareddm wrote:
Highly doubtful. There is no evidence that the likes of titans or warp drives are capable of being built outside of the specialized equipment found on forge worlds, whereas there is evidence of hand weapons and basic vehicle manufacturers being granted rites by the Adeptus Mechanicus to produce standardized equipment with little or no supervision.
Well, I agree.
jareddm wrote:
Not in terms of military-grade weaponry it's not. Especially not for the use of the Imperial Guard. The Adeptus Administratum and by extension the Departmento Munitorum regulate the materials available and direct what goods are assigned where.
Lexicanum wrote:
Divisions of the Administratum
- The Departmento Munitorum - Oversees the massive logistics and management of the Imperial Guard
- The Officio Assassinorum - Secretive assassination organization
- The Estate Imperium - Record keeping department
- The Historical Revision Unit - Revises historical records that may be 'subversive' to Imperial rule
- The Officio Medicae - Public health and general medical care agency
- The Logis Strategos - Intelligence and threat-analysis agency
- The Strategic Collective - Top-secret intelligence and research agency established jointly with the Inquisition and Adeptus Mechanicus to investigate the extent of the Tyranid threat.
- The Tithes Chamber Notaries, sub. Planetary Census (Abhumans) deals with Abhuman affairs.
- The Imperial Fleet
- The Ordo Tempestus - Elite military force that includes Tempestus Scions and Commissars.
As you can see, Administratum does not dictate what goes where. If the Imperium started meddling with what sort of weapons local AF's are allowed to have, Planets and Systems wouldn't be able to defend itself.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089734.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
 Finlandiaperkele wrote:

jareddm wrote:
Their operations would most likely just have a tech priest adviser or overseer to make sure everything stays up to code.
Most propably not, if the tech/blueprints didn't come from the Mechanicus. If, however, the blueprints did come from Mechanicus, and they got access to some rarer stuff only produced on a (specific) Forge World, then they would get Mechanicus personnel to watch over the production.
Tech that does not come from the AdMech is heresy. The AdMech has an absolute monopoly on all technology in the Imperium. Ordinary citizens are not even allowed to do anything but the most basic of maintenance rituals. Fixing stuff yourself is heresy. If you want to get something fixed, you have to go see your local enginseer. (altough there are hints that the AdMech, isn't all that strict in enforcement, even if it pisses off your local enginseer.)
However, individual Forgeworlds do give out licenses to other worlds to produce all their standard pattern stuff.

Also, I suppose large weapon shows could happen when a world has choice between 2 different Forgeworlds to supply its military equipment and the 2 Forgeworlds are competing over who gets the contract.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089774.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
 Iron_Captain wrote:
 Finlandiaperkele wrote:

jareddm wrote:
Their operations would most likely just have a tech priest adviser or overseer to make sure everything stays up to code.
Most propably not, if the tech/blueprints didn't come from the Mechanicus. If, however, the blueprints did come from Mechanicus, and they got access to some rarer stuff only produced on a (specific) Forge World, then they would get Mechanicus personnel to watch over the production.
Tech that does not come from the AdMech is heresy. The AdMech has an absolute monopoly on all technology in the Imperium. Ordinary citizens are not even allowed to do anything but the most basic of maintenance rituals. Fixing stuff yourself is heresy. If you want to get something fixed, you have to go see your local enginseer. (altough there are hints that the AdMech, isn't all that strict in enforcement, even if it pisses off your local enginseer.)
However, individual Forgeworlds do give out licenses to other worlds to produce all their standard pattern stuff.

Also, I suppose large weapon shows could happen when a world has choice between 2 different Forgeworlds to supply its military equipment and the 2 Forgeworlds are competing over who gets the contract.

I'm pretty sure that a common ballistic firearm would be allowed to be manufactured on-site. Sure, there'll be a Mechanicum representative there to ensure you don't screw it up, but that doesn't mean that every tiny little bit of tech is produced on a Forge World. There is a reason that virtually every world that is described (in detail) has a manufactorum on it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8089986.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium
 dusara217 wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
 Finlandiaperkele wrote:

jareddm wrote:
Their operations would most likely just have a tech priest adviser or overseer to make sure everything stays up to code.
Most propably not, if the tech/blueprints didn't come from the Mechanicus. If, however, the blueprints did come from Mechanicus, and they got access to some rarer stuff only produced on a (specific) Forge World, then they would get Mechanicus personnel to watch over the production.
Tech that does not come from the AdMech is heresy. The AdMech has an absolute monopoly on all technology in the Imperium. Ordinary citizens are not even allowed to do anything but the most basic of maintenance rituals. Fixing stuff yourself is heresy. If you want to get something fixed, you have to go see your local enginseer. (altough there are hints that the AdMech, isn't all that strict in enforcement, even if it pisses off your local enginseer.)
However, individual Forgeworlds do give out licenses to other worlds to produce all their standard pattern stuff.

Also, I suppose large weapon shows could happen when a world has choice between 2 different Forgeworlds to supply its military equipment and the 2 Forgeworlds are competing over who gets the contract.

I'm pretty sure that a common ballistic firearm would be allowed to be manufactured on-site. Sure, there'll be a Mechanicum representative there to ensure you don't screw it up, but that doesn't mean that every tiny little bit of tech is produced on a Forge World. There is a reason that virtually every world that is described (in detail) has a manufactorum on it.
You two are saying the same thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8090157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8090157.page GMT Weapon shows in the Imperium http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8090346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662055/8090346.page GMT