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				<description><![CDATA[ I think this list has the potential to be pretty competitive. Lots of targets all immune to anything below S5. Plus 12 units outflanking on turn one. I really want to be able to take sanctuary on the warlord but I cant find the extra five points I neet without dropping a missile pod. Thoughts?<br /> <br /> <u>The Household Cavalry</u>(1850)<br /> <br /> Baronial Court<br /> <br /> Crusader (480)<br />     Warlord<br />     Stormspear<br /> <br /> Paladin (415)<br />     Stormspear<br /> <br /> Castigator (380)<br /> <br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (155)<br />     Dragoon    <br />         1 x Phosphor Serpenta<br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would like to see Sanctuary on the Warlord it is just too good to pass up. Also I'd have thought one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> oriented Knights would gain more benefit. Drop some serpentas to pay for it they really aren't worth it. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There is only one serpenta and the only reason its there is because I couldn't come up with the extra 5 points I needed for sanctuary without either losing an entire formation of caveliers or the missile pod on the paladin. I could take out the serpenta and add a meltagun to a knight and upgrade the thermal cannon on the Warlord.But I can't figure out how to gain the points I need for sanctuary. My question is, is it worth it to drop the missile pod.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 15 points for 2 Ion Shield facings? Hells yes it is worth it before you even consider it also gives you a 6+ in the other facings.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I could do something like this that would Allow for Sanctuary.<br /> <br /> <u>The Household Cavalry</u>(1850)<br /> <br /> Baronial Court<br /> <br /> Crusader (485)<br />     Warlord<br />     Stormspear<br />     Meltagun<br />     Sanctuary<br /> <br /> Paladin (405)<br />     Ironstorm<br /> <br /> Castigator (380)<br /> <br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also, do you think this would be effective? I feel like almost every list would have difficulty with it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:05:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For the Crusader the battlecannon fits better than the melta so swap those upgrades. Otherwise looks solid.  Loads of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> and any S4 or below is completely wasted.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ nasty]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:21:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ About the only real downside that I can find is that it pretty much guarantees giving up first blood if you dont get first turn, but that's really a small price to pay.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:13:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dramagod2]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why do you give up first blood if you go 2nd? Gicen that they have to kill an Imperial Knight this is one of the best lists out there for not giving up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(153);'>FB</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:16:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/65afb78ba94982239ee431d965e2013a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662139/8092356.page"><b>FlingitNow wrote:</b></a><br/>Why do you give up first blood if you go 2nd? Gicen that they have to kill an Imperial Knight this is one of the best lists out there for not giving up <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(153);'>FB</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You're right, on second thought, it'd be better to go second as you'd deny them first turn shooting on the skitarii. Still, once theyre on the board it's not too difficult to off one. They only have to kill one dragoon or balistarii. An all around AV11 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>hp</span> vehicle. It's really not that hard of a thing to do if you're trying.<br /> <br /> I'd just have to concentrate on clearing a unit first turn if possible.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:22:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dramagod2]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If 3 Knights can't kill a unit turn 1 you're probably in trouble anyway...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Aug 2015 07:38:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know it's a spammy list, but is it too spammy? Also, Im trying to shake out some weaknesses in the list. Any thoughts on what could be a strong counter to it? I'm thinking melts spam in an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> army would reallybe bad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Sep 2015 15:51:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dramagod2]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This is a nasty list]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Sep 2015 16:26:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As far as Knights go you're pretty strong vs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> with 15 individual units and the ability to fire at 19 separate targets, plus stomps and you deny melta efficiency as Knights have the invun and they're overkilling Dragoons.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> You ruin Gladius.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Sep 2015 16:39:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/65afb78ba94982239ee431d965e2013a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662139/8096018.page"><b>FlingitNow wrote:</b></a><br/>As far as Knights go you're pretty strong vs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSU</span> with 15 individual units and the ability to fire at 19 separate targets, plus stomps and you deny melta efficiency as Knights have the invun and they're overkilling Dragoons.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> You ruin Gladius.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Very true, though probably not 19 targets since the dragoons don't shoot. Not that they need to. I think this is what Im going to try out. I switched the thermal out for the battle and downgraded the stormspear on the paladin to an irontstorm. I know they're not great but I had 30 points at it was either that or 3 serpentas for the dragoons.<br /> <br /> <u>The Household Cavalry</u>(1850)<br /> <br /> Baronial Court<br /> <br /> Crusader (485)<br />     Warlord<br />     Stormspear <br />     Battlecannon<br />     Sanctuary<br /> <br /> Paladin (405)<br />     Ironstorm<br /> <br /> Castigator (380)<br /> <br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (155)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii<br /> <br /> Ironstrider Cavaliers (145)<br />     Dragoon    <br />     Dragoon<br />     Ballistarii]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah good point you can easily attack 19 different targets in a turn. Against for instance gladius you could conceivably kill all their Razorbacks on turn 2 alone as Dragoons ruin a Razor each before you even consider the Ballistarii and Knights...<br /> <br /> I like it though looks really good overall.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Knights/Skitarii - Household Cavalry</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Very interesting, thematically! Tell us how it works out if you make it!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im working on getting the ironstrider models together now. Im trying to use my business to order from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> wholesale as the models are more dollars than they are points<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/98f820f0546cc63ebe075e3c11e7a35b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/662139/8097595.page"><b>LeCacty wrote:</b></a><br/>Very interesting, thematically! Tell us how it works out if you make it!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The thing I keep thinking of is just the Knights walking forward with all of the ironstriders just running past them and weaving around them. Kinda like that scene in jurassic park with all the Gallimimus(i?) running through the fields and around and under the brontosauri.]]></description>
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