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				<description><![CDATA[ For reference, standard armies/reasons:<br /> <br /> <br /> Space Marines: "Cheesy formations/why doesn't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> release stuff for my army instead of more space marines?!?"<br /> <br /> Necrons: "grr cheesy decurion"<br /> <br /> Tau: "I just wanted a sword fight but he shoot all my doods"<br /> <br /> Eldar: "RAAAARGHKLFGLGHHJHHJH they Turk mah jerrrrrbs Scatterbikes cheesy d weapon wraith serpentshield knightstar cheesy cheddar argh"<br /> <br /> So, beyond those, from whence does your rage burn and your salt flow? For me, it's all about the freaking hats. Every time I look at a Cadian or Eldar, I am overcome with anger because WHY would you put that silly thing on your head????!?!?? <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tyranids because they are wannabe Necromorphs but not as good]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hate the current troop selection for Imperial Guard: starship troopers (Cadian), vietnam vets (Catachans), or my more expensive choices are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(312);'>DKOK</span>, and Elysians. I'm glad I have a complete Steel Legion at home. I need to pump out heavy weapon teams in resin at some point.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Orks, specifically the green tide, its gonna get to and destroy whatever it touches no doubt. This formation is the bane of my exsistence as tau.<br /> <br /> Tyranids, the codex is better then what the internet says it is. <br /> <br /> Play against a guy who runs blood angels with a nemesis strike force. He went largely undefeated for about 6 months. Blood angels are hardecore]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not a fan of chaos demons.  Just don't like the look of most of the models.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dark Eldar, as much as I love the models and some of the rules, I just can't get behind "so edgy and evil that it's funny"]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't &quot;hate&quot; the Tau, but I just never see myself playing them. I really dislike the manga/japanese style. It's part of the marketing of them as a faction and while I won't decry anyone for picking them up because they love that style so much, but I just can't get on board with them. Which is unfortunate, because I love their rules!<br /> <br /> Every time I look at Daemons, I want to see square bases. Age of Sigmar will help quell this from my mind, but for now it still bugs me. After all, it's hip to be a square! (Yarium starts dancing)<br /> <br /> I own Tyranids, they're my first <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> love. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY - I CAN'T KEEP THEM STANDING UP AND THEIR SPIKES STICK <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> EVERYTHING! RAAAAARR! Seriously, transporting them has been so annoying... since always and likely forever.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Necrons, only because it's literally drybrush silver and your whole army is done. My friend actually mixes it up and runs some bronze Wraiths and Warriors and it looks really good.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/269412d73484d780532f8f0924d170cd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118131.page"><b>pumpinchimp wrote:</b></a><br/>Not a fan of chaos demons.  Just don't like the look of most of the models.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah Daemons for me are a no-go, which sucks cause I play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>. I know they're effective on the tabletop, but aesthetically not enough of their models really jump out at me. They range from kooky-goofy to over-the-top grotesque. But they're all so spindly and lack substance. I want a big hulking beast of a Daemon that looks as scary as it plays.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tyranids: So monobuild  in this dex and the previous one that it's killed my desire to play them even though I've amassed a might collection. <br /> <br /> Tau/Necrons: Ignore basic rules such as casualties, cover, movement. Fun.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>/Ad Mech: So many books for them when it could just be compiled into one. Also super friends because why not. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/c675fddf4e104e332867d3309c9c6d7a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118275.page"><b>Frozocrone wrote:</b></a><br/>Tyranids: So monobuild  in this dex and the previous one that it's killed my desire to play them even though I've amassed a might collection. <br /> <br /> Tau/Necrons: Ignore basic rules such as casualties, cover, movement. Fun.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>/Ad Mech: So many books for them when it could just be compiled into one. Also super friends because why not. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span> at ignoring casualties]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Sep 2015 16:00:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ die toten hosen]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ really... I have no idea what you mean by non-standard army.<br /> <br /> Also, I have no idea why everybody seemed to understand, but I didn't...<br /> <br /> I'm a sad panda :(]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ PandaHero]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> because facing Draigo and double NDK every game gets really old really fast.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8117764.page"><b>Champion of Slaanesh wrote:</b></a><br/>Tyranids because they are wannabe Necromorphs but not as good</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You're kidding, right?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I dont like Space Marines for being overused ( both Tabletop and Fluff), overrated and overpowered (standart reason however)...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid. <br /> <br /> Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore. <br /> <br /> Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring. <br /> <br /> Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.<br /> <br /> Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame. <br /> <br /> Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?<br /> <br /> Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, update this otherwise cool faction. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Imperial Guard: General lack of vehicles. Yes. I did just say that. Don't look at me sideways, many <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> players will tell you that there are never enough tanks.<br /> <br /> Space Marines: I cannot stress this enough, I HATE THAT FETHING BLUE AND GOLD PAINTSCHEME, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> CAN FETH OFF AND DIE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> EVEYTIME I SEE ANYTHING <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> DO WITH <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> THOSE DAMN SMURFS TURN UP AND RUIN <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span> FOR ME!<br /> <br /> /rant]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e2f74f17a8d082a1eb6882ca8e7a3c37.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118400.page"><b>TheCustomLime wrote:</b></a><br/>Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid. <br /> <br /> Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore. <br /> <br /> Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring. <br /> <br /> Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.<br /> <br /> Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame. <br /> <br /> Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?<br /> <br /> Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, update this otherwise cool faction. <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Are there any armies you like?  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/55b4f23109bb4f5979f77edc0c9a96ba.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118420.page"><b>vipoid wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e2f74f17a8d082a1eb6882ca8e7a3c37.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118400.page"><b>TheCustomLime wrote:</b></a><br/>Tyranids because the idea of living technology is stupid. <br /> <br /> Necrons because they are oh so invincible and awesome in the lore. <br /> <br /> Dark Eldar because they are just super edgy Space Elves. Boring. <br /> <br /> Militarium Tempestus Scions: Stupid name, overpriced Guardsmen models and they don't have enough units to be justified as their own faction.<br /> <br /> Space Wolves: A 13 year old's Space Marine fan chapter made canon. Lame. <br /> <br /> Officio Assablahblah: Why are they their own Codex?<br /> <br /> Adepta Sororitas: Holy sweet emphrah their prices. Their models are dated and all metal. Please, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, update this otherwise cool faction. <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Are there any armies you like?  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I like all of the other armies for various reasons but that's not what this thread is about. It's about pure negativity. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Armies that have mass flying bases whenever I field them because I'm a stickler for keeping the 2 pieces separate for transport capacity's sake.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/743228-This%20isn%27t%20even%20my%20side%20of%20the%20board.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2015/9/11/743228_sm-This%20isn%27t%20even%20my%20side%20of%20the%20board.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /> <br /> It took me a while to get a lot of these drones on the board when ~5 mass dropped in]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(387);'>WTH</span>, SO MMMMUUUCCCHHHH DRRROOONNNNE]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On a similar note - My Necrons, because the bloody destroyers barely even fit on their stupid flying bases, let alone stay on them.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8117746.page"><b>the_scotsman wrote:</b></a><br/>For reference, standard armies/reasons:<br /> <br /> <br /> Space Marines: "Cheesy formations/why doesn't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> release stuff for my army instead of more space marines?!?"<br /> <br /> Necrons: "grr cheesy decurion"<br /> <br /> Tau: "I just wanted a sword fight but he shoot all my doods"<br /> <br /> Eldar: "RAAAARGHKLFGLGHHJHHJH they Turk mah jerrrrrbs Scatterbikes cheesy d weapon wraith serpentshield knightstar cheesy cheddar argh"<br /> <br /> So, beyond those, from whence does your rage burn and your salt flow? For me, it's all about the freaking hats. Every time I look at a Cadian or Eldar, I am overcome with anger because WHY would you put that silly thing on your head????!?!?? <br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>I always thought the Vostroyan models were so cool...except the hats. If they'd had helmets or something, sure, but the big bearskin caps just don't do it for me. Likewise, Cadian helmets look stupid and their facial expressions make them look like they're painfully constipated. I switch out the heads on mine with Pig Iron Productions Kolony Militia heads. Catachan's are just...beyond saving. <br /> <br /> As for armies I genuinely dislike for other reasons? There' a variety of issues, and quite often it's not even necessarily with the faction itself but rather the playerbase.<br /> <br /> Space Wolves. Their fluff and writing is truly abysmal, infuriatingly arrogant, contradictory, absurd, and wasteful of so much potential to be cool. They're just awful. Also the very concept of Thunderwolves is stupid.<br /> <br /> Likewise, I *want* to like the Militarum Tempestus Scions stuff, I always wanted a Stormtrooper army, but between the stupid faux-latin renaming, terrible tabletop functionality, and "harry potter snuff fanfic" Schola fluff, they just come off really badly. <br /> <br /> Blood Angels are another faction I have some issues with, but not really because of the faction itself. The issue really is just that every time I've ever had to play against them, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> player was a massive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(127);'>TFG</span> except in maybe one instance. Either outright cheating, whiny and unpleasant to be around, or in at least two cases, both. Also, I really don't think they need to be their own distinct faction. Likewise with Dark Angels, being their own distinct faction seems to simply be a matter of inertia rather than anything else. I actually don't mind the fluff of either chapter mostly, but the hamfisting in of stuff unique to these armies (like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>'s own unique aircraft), particularly when their fluff has long stated that they are largely codex adherent, seems to be done simply to go out of their wayt o justify their existence as a distinct faction, which to me sounds both counterproductive and counter to their long established fluff. <br /> <br /> Now, I like Eldar as a faction, in fact, I've got 4-4.5k points of them, but I really dislike the common "well, they should be better...just because...well, elves should just be better!" mentality that seems to be common with that faction that can seemingly always excuse any balance issues with the faction and justify across the board stat increases. The fact that every edition they get a codex for they end up being pretty broken doesn't help.<br /> <br /> With Necrons, gameplay issues aside, I'm just not a fan of their fluff. The "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> Tomb Kings...but in SPAAAACE!" reboot they got felt both lazy and paint-by-numbers boring. <br /> <br /> Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2639c6bd2a42e714227b06646829d6ea.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118775.page"><b>Vaktathi wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions. </div></blockquote>It's like the British tendency to assume that, due to WW1 and WW2, Germany has always been at least a little evil, and thus does not deserve to win anything. It's not true, but leaves some people feeling rather strange about rooting for them.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is thinking to itself "Well, they are the baddies of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, so why should they win anything?". Totally glossing over what the legions are supposed to stand for.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't like the Kroot... they wet their nests!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Space Wolves - please choose between having wolf pets and wearing their pelts. Doing both is just weird. "Hey, Mr. Wolf, want to be my friend? Hmm? What's this around my shoulders? Oh, just your sister's skin. So, want to be best buds? Wait! Where are you going? Come back!"<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> - do these armies still need their own books? It seems like there's very little in either that couldn't be represented by Chapter Tactics.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/23628111e26ec11a6e4133e8ae4ecfb1.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118826.page"><b>Selym wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2639c6bd2a42e714227b06646829d6ea.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118775.page"><b>Vaktathi wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Also Khorne Daemonkin. Not so much what it is, but what it represents, which is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s willful blindness and seemingly intentional desire to avoid doing anything related to the original Legions. </div></blockquote>It's like the British tendency to assume that, due to WW1 and WW2, Germany has always been at least a little evil, and thus does not deserve to win anything. It's not true, but leaves some people feeling rather strange about rooting for them.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is thinking to itself "Well, they are the baddies of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, so why should they win anything?". Totally glossing over what the legions are supposed to stand for.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> seems to have a general tendency to make the 'hero' races far stronger and better equipped than the 'villain' ones. Compare Eldar to Dark Eldar, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMs</span> to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSMs</span> etc.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I play Harlequins, but I dislike all of their models that use the flying bases. For some reason <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> made the holes too small and the bases won't fit. I bump a Skyweaver and it falls over (much like when it gets wounded in a game)! <br /> <br /> I also dislike that people call them Space Clowns... they are clearly Space Shakespearean Actors. To feth or not to feth, that is the question ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118910.page"><b>reevesshady wrote:</b></a><br/>I play Harlequins, but I dislike all of their models that use the flying bases. For some reason <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> made the holes too small and the bases won't fit. I bump a Skyweaver and it falls over! <br /> <br /> I also dislike that people call them Space Clowns... they are clearly Space Shakespearean Actors. To feth or not to feth, that is the question </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <i>"Tu Feth"</i> is the answer.<br /> <br /> No, I did not misspell, though my grammar may be off.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118106.page"><b>die toten hosen wrote:</b></a><br/>Orks, specifically the green tide, its gonna get to and destroy whatever it touches no doubt. This formation is the bane of my exsistence as tau. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> .....what??? You should be blasting the Tide off the board! Its a giant walking target and you have enough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 4 range Yes weapons to completely demolish it. What are you running pure Kroot?<br /> <br /> On topic, Space Wolves. I am all for Space Marine Vikings, i am all for genetically modified super wolves, hell i can live with Thundercavalry (exclusively because Rule of Cool). However i cannot forgive their blatant denial of the fact that their "Priests" are fething Sorcerers!! That plus the fact that they are, to often, raging douche bags and i just cant deal with them. Apparently Logan Grimnar is actually a really cool guy, you just wouldnt know it from his codex. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Blood Angels: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> VAMPIRES!<br /> Space Wolves: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> WEREWOLVES!<br /> Red Scorpions: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(468);'>EW</span> NAZIS!<br /> VERY atypical, it would seem. Not that people haven't NOTICED these elements, but nobody else I've spoken to directly and genuinely loathes these Chapters for these specific reasons.<br /> On a similar note I don't hate them at all but I'm uncomfortable with/unwilling to play Salamanders because of the whole <a href="http://1d4chan.org/index.php?title=Salamanders&oldid=293830#Racism_Allegations" target="_new" rel="nofollow">racism issue</a> and that's DEFINITELY a non-standard reason to want to avoid a faction, everyone I've spoken to about this (besides the guy who got me into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>), thinks I'm a loon for saying it at all, including those on this site. I just can't shake the uncomfortable feeling that I'd be accused of racism for playing them and such (it was said that anyone who said that isn't worth playing with, still would fething hurt and I don't want yet another limiting factor on who I can play with).<br /> Also non-standard factions but standard reasons:<br /> Adeptus Mechanicus: Their stupid, Luddite, anti-progressive attitude towards technological innovations.<br /> Inquisition: They seem to be "too grimdark", one might say. That is, they're definitely grim and gritty but not in an entertaining or interesting way. More pointless "edginess" and "look how depressing and unpleasant we can make the fluff!" than anything else. Beyond that, their design is very much all over the place and a bit of a mish-mash of various Imperial factions all rolled together.<br /> <br /> Also absolutely NOT hate but a faction I don't want to play against at all for a non-standard reason...<br /> Dark Angels: I play them, this would get confusing.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Racism? In the Sallies?<br /> <br /> The feth are you talking about?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I don't know what you're getting at with the Salamanders racism thing either... Probably a good reason people think your a loon for saying it :p.<br /> <br /> If you're pulling info from 1d4chan, that's your first problem. 99% of the stuff on there is 4chan-esque humor. Interjecting racism into it comes off as really forced.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't <i>hate</i> any faction. I do, however, strongly dislike the Space Wolves.<br /> <br /> I'm fine with space vikings that show an affinity for wolves. What we actually have, though, are Wolf Brothers waiting for the Wolf Time, the time when the Wolf Father will return with the Wulfen and lead the Wolf Lords, Wolf Guard, Wolf Priests, Lone Wolves, and Wolf Scouts. Oh, and some of them wear wolf pelts and/or ride wolves or, in one case, have a wolf chariot. It won't be long before the Void Wolves get wolfblades and wolfshields and fly through space with wolfjet-packs, listening to Steppenwulf and shooting wolfguns at the wolf-hated. While surrounded by wolves. Or perhaps <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> will decide to diversify and introduce a new faction, perhaps ruled by a Blood God that sits upon his Blood Throne and sends out armies of bloodletters and bloodthirsters and bloodcrushers and blood slaughters. Oh, wait.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, there's a difference between "Theme" and "Caricature".]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8120250.page"><b>Mallich wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't <i>hate</i> any faction. I do, however, strongly dislike the Space Wolves.<br /> <br /> I'm fine with space vikings that show an affinity for wolves. What we actually have, though, are Wolf Brothers waiting for the Wolf Time, the time when the Wolf Father will return with the Wulfen and lead the Wolf Lords, Wolf Guard, Wolf Priests, Lone Wolves, and Wolf Scouts. Oh, and some of them wear wolf pelts and/or ride wolves or, in one case, have a wolf chariot. It won't be long before the Void Wolves get wolfblades and wolfshields and fly through space with wolfjet-packs, listening to Steppenwulf and shooting wolfguns at the wolf-hated. While surrounded by wolves. Or perhaps <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> will decide to diversify and introduce a new faction, perhaps ruled by a Blood God that sits upon his Blood Throne and sends out armies of bloodletters and bloodthirsters and bloodcrushers and blood slaughters. Oh, wait.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, there's a difference between "Theme" and "Caricature".</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Made me think of this:<br /> <br /> LOGAN GRIMNAR GETS A TALKING <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span><br /> <br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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"Brothers, brothers, let us call the grand convocation of chapter masters to order."<br /> <br /> Slowly hush descended as various post human supermen put down glasses of wine or forkfuls of food, all save for Pedro Kantor and Helbrecht who were eating large spoonfuls of chocolate pudding whilst staring at Vladimir Pugh making loud mmmmmm noises. Pugh's face was growing redder by the second.<br /> <br /> "Brothers, order please!" Dante of the Blood Angels slammed a fist on the lectern.<br /> <br /> "I have called this conference to discuss a very pressing problem, I speak of course of the wolf issue."<br /> <br /> Angry muttering filled the room, the Space Wolves new armoury had caused consternation in the fellow astartes chapters.<br /> <br /> "Logan Grimnar, you and I have known each other for hundreds of years, we have fought by each other's side more times than I can remember so as a friend I have brought you here to tell you that this **** has to stop. We could cope with the Wolf Guard, **** it we could even deal with everything being called wolf but this." A picture of the the wolf sled appeared on the holo projector "This has to stop friend."<br /> <br /> "Hypocrite!" bellowed a Space Wolf "Don't think we've forgotten about deep striking land raiders, or the obsession with blood."<br /> <br /> "At least they're not furries!" a voice yelled and was met by a cheer.<br /> <br /> Now it was Grimnar's turn to stand.<br /> <br /> "Hunting Fenrisian wolves is part of our culture, we have a right to take trophies."<br /> <br /> "So do we," rumbled Tu'shan of the Salamanders, "but you don't see us with ears and and tail." He gave a worried look at his fire drakes each covered is horns and scales and made a mental note to have a chat with them back on Nocturne.<br /> <br /> "Logan we do not wish to insult you but we just wanted to show you how far-"<br /> <br /> "You have come to being a total [<a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/forum_rules.jsp">see forum posting rules</a>]!" yelled Gabriel Seth who threw a bread roll for added emphasis.<br /> <br /> Logan gave a sigh as the roll stuck on the wolf pelt on his armor.<br /> <br /> "Brothers, surely you can forgive a first founding chapter their..." he glanced at the wolf swords of his Wolf Guard "their little eccentricities, have we not done much for the cause of the Imperium. By our actions, the Inquisition have been told to back off from interfering in the affairs of our chapters and by our blades have countless innocent lives been saved" (muttering greeted this statement as the definition of 'innocent' was one that was up for close debate amongst the various chapters). "We all after all have our iconography, the Dark Angels bolt stonework to everything, the Salamanders have their scales, we have our wolves I find it breathtaking" Logan's voice raised to a deafening yell "that other chapters would have the audacity to interfere-"<br /> <br /> "You make us all look ridiculous!" yelled a Silver Skull.<br /> <br /> The debate raged for two hours more until eventually the Great Wolf and his Wolf Guard where driven from the hall in a hail of bread rolls and catcalls.<br /> <br /> Later Logan found himself trudging the deep passages of the Fang, lost in his own thoughts, he had exchanged his armour for the loose tunics the Wolves wore when not in battle and his footsteps echoed through the dimly lit corridors he passed Murderfang being wrestled into containment by a trio of Iron Priests.<br /> <br /> "YIFF!" it screamed gnashing at the air "YIFF! YIFF! YIFF!" Logan winced and carried onward to an ornate vault which swung open at his touch.<br /> <br /> "LOGAN!" a voice boomed from the darkness "What brings you here this night?"<br /> <br /> In an jewel encrusted alcove stood the squat form of Bjorn the Fell Handed, the ancient dreadnought beckoned with a claw.<br /> <br /> "Come Logan, sit and tell me what ails you boy."<br /> <br /> Logan pulled a short three legged stool from a corner, noting the mating wolves carved on the top. The Great Wolf sank forward head in his hands.<br /> <br /> "Where did it all go wrong Bjorn? We used to be feared and loved. Everyone wanted to be us. When the chapter walked and met it's fellows, they would respect us. Now they laugh."<br /> <br /> There was a mechanical sigh from the sarcophagus.<br /> <br /> "It's because we just aren't scary anymore son. We used to be, gods we were downright terrifying. Do you know why people used to join us back in the day?"<br /> <br /> "For honour, for being selected to fight in the Allfather's crusade?<br /> <br /> "WRONG" yelled Bjorn "It wasn't for honour. It wasn't to see the stars. Sure as **** wasn't to pansy around with the Allfather, it was for these reasons: drinking, fighting, bitches. Becoming an astartes gave you lots of all three. We were supermen for crying out loud, all young and fired up and ready to go. People were scared of us not because we loved death but because we LOVED LIFE, we loved BEING an astartes, we loved the blood and booze and the pillaging. We were raiders and reavers and lunatics. You," Bjorn pointed a claw at Logan "have lost sight of that. "We had enthusiasm."<br /> <br /> "But what does this have to with the whole 'wolf thing'?"<br /> <br /> "Because you think the wolf thing was what gave us identity, made us special but it wasn't. What made us special was that we were sweaty beardy angry savages with guns and gene implants. We wore the teeth and totems to remind us of home. Wolves didn't define us, they were a part of the rich primal heritage of Fenris, one symbol amongst many."
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				<description><![CDATA[ EXALT FOR TRUTH!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:15:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grimmor]]></author>
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				<title>Does anyone hate a non-standard army (or for a non standard reason?)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f1b18bd88cc3cc24f351fc83dc51f5cd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118831.page"><b>Psienesis wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't like the Kroot... they wet their nests!</div></blockquote><br /> So you've got the expurgated version of  Codex: Tau, I assume?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:33:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Aben Zin]]></author>
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				<title>Does anyone hate a non-standard army (or for a non standard reason?)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f1b18bd88cc3cc24f351fc83dc51f5cd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/663562/8118831.page"><b>Psienesis wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't like the Kroot... they wet their nests!</div></blockquote>When people told you how good kroot were at "elimination", that's not the type of "elimination" they were talking about. <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 17:50:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mallich]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am not really off put to any different faction in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, and I like all of them, however, if I had to choose, it would either be the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> or Tau.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>, I just don't care for all the secrecy and interagation and stuff.<br /> <br /> Tau, just hate the look of all the models in the codex, and I really hate the helmets the most *shivers*]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 18:00:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gummyofallbears]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Does anyone hate a non-standard army (or for a non standard reason?)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Codex T̶y̶r̶a̶n̶i̶d̶s̶, H̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶T̶y̶r̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶t̶a̶x̶ Flying Circus; the 'swarm' should not have to be outnumbered by space marines to be viable.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:06:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AtraUnam]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> and other armies that spam psykers.<br /> <br /> I'll just go and make myself a sandwich while you do your psychic phase.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Sep 2015 21:56:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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