Martel732 wrote:
I don't think a priest is mandatory at all. Statistically, a jump pack priest is not going to save his own cost in SG unless there are a ton of SG in the squad. If I were going to use them, I'd just use five of them naked. The cheaper the better. Because they are going to die. But maybe they can kill a lot of elite dudes before they die. Avoid MCs at all costs.

 evildrcheese wrote:
If you're having problems with Orks SG are probably one of the worst you its to look to at remedying those problems. Death Company would be better at dealing with orks, as SG are an elite killing unit best for bullying meq, frankly they're wasted on dudes rocking a 6+.

Add Dante to a DC squad (thumbs up to whoever mentions Celestine, I often run her a my 'budget Dante' with the DC), and give them a couple of fists and a maul and a chapppy. More than enough to deal with anything in the Ork Book.

If you must run SG, you probably want 1 fist , 1 axe and 3 sword in a 5 man, keep the same ratios when going to 10 man. Add banner and point them at something with 3+. Add a priest if you want , for the FnP, but I prefer Chaplains and Librarians with this book.

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 slowclinic wrote:

 evildrcheese wrote:
If you're having problems with Orks SG are probably one of the worst you its to look to at remedying those problems. Death Company would be better at dealing with orks, as SG are an elite killing unit best for bullying meq, frankly they're wasted on dudes rocking a 6+.

Add Dante to a DC squad (thumbs up to whoever mentions Celestine, I often run her a my 'budget Dante' with the DC), and give them a couple of fists and a maul and a chapppy. More than enough to deal with anything in the Ork Book.

If you must run SG, you probably want 1 fist , 1 axe and 3 sword in a 5 man, keep the same ratios when going to 10 man. Add banner and point them at something with 3+. Add a priest if you want , for the FnP, but I prefer Chaplains and Librarians with this book.

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I already field a 10 man DC squad with either a ML2 Librarian with Gallian's Staff or a Jump Chaplain with Veritas Vitae, depending on what I'm up against. When there's a lot of Nobz with 4+ saves and FNP, they're far more resilient to DC than I anticipated (including 2x Power Sword and 1x Power Fist. The AP3 would be helpful in this situation.

I ready have Fast Attack and Heavy Supported covered effectively, so it would be nice to have an alternative hard-hitting CC unit. I have thought about running a small Adepta Sororitas alongside my BA. That would be interesting.

SoB bring some nice elements to bolster BA. I'm tailoring for vs Orks here but...in an allied detachment you could bring

St Celestine - decent cheap beat stick, gives Hit and Run and can tank on a 2+, comes witha built in H Flamers strikes at I7 and S5 all the time.
Battle Sister Squad - 5 Battle Sisters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer - HB immolator.
Retributor Squad - 4 Heavy Bolters (access to rending once per game on ld check)
Dominions - 4 Meltas (access to ignores cover once psr game on ld check) put them in a MM immolotor. They also have Scout.

Obviously you wouldn't need all of those min is Celestine and 1 Troop. HB are obviously goof vs orks rocking a 4+, same for heavy flamer and orks don't like template weapons anyway. Melta iss good for dealing with Battle Wagons and can double out Nobz.

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 Slaphead wrote:
This is how I run my Sanguinary Guard:

Squad of 5.

- One with Enacarmine Sword and infernus pistol
- One with Enacarmine Sword and Angelus bolgun
- One with Enacarmine Axe and plasma pistol
- One with Enacarmine Axe and Angelus boltgun
- One with Power Fist, Angelus boltgun and banner

That squad has firepower to deal with most armour saves and the weapon loadout helps with the sword guys doing the initial attacks to take down enemy models before the unwieldy axes and fist strike. Has worked really well with Dante attached to them, but unfortunately, they are my unluckiest Blood Angel unit as I lose them to non scattering Obliterator plasma cannon blasts (my regular opponent is a lucky git!) or that damn axe of blind fury that he also uses with his daemon prince or juggerlord. Besides that they do pretty well against most other things besides beefed up HQ units.

 th3maninblak wrote:
Conveniently enough, ths Blood Angels upgrade sprue actually comes with a blood chalice. For the longest time I was a little salty that it didn't come with a power weapon like all the others, and then I realized that we could use it to make our own priests!

 slowclinic wrote:

 th3maninblak wrote:
Conveniently enough, ths Blood Angels upgrade sprue actually comes with a blood chalice. For the longest time I was a little salty that it didn't come with a power weapon like all the others, and then I realized that we could use it to make our own priests!

I'd forgotten about that, although I'll probably turn to bitz box as I already have a load of shoulder pads, heads and other accessories from various boxed kits over the years. What's going to be tough is the modelling; the 'priest' I got on eBay has one hand that's only sporting a narthecium, and the other is a chain sword. I've got work to do...

JeffytheUndead wrote:Dante/ SG/ SP star is always fun in my opinion. With a squad of 5 SG and the priest and Dante, I have never had them not at least have a few bodies left at the end of a game. I personally wouldn't use the axes, though I know they could be useful. I would just opt for another power fist instead of the axe.

So here is an example of how I would run a squad:

SG x9:
7x Swords
2x PF
Chapter Banner
2x Plasma Pistols

S. Priest:
Valor's Edge (for the AP 2)
Jump Pack
Inferno Pistol (Again, if you need to spend some extra points somewhere and to give him +1 attack for two melee weapons)

Dante

for a total of approx. 700 points. Its pricey but it could work well depending on what goes on.

Martel732 wrote:
I would never pay 700 pts for a unit that gets gutted by a single demolisher cannon shot.