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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello!<br /> <br /> I started playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(383);'>WHF</span> when I was like 10 years old and played quite competitively for T3 until I couldn't keep up with the hobby due to work. I recently settled down and the urge for wargaming started growing on me so I decided to start again! I soon came to realize my beloved Fantasy game was no longer. Since I'm not interested in playing Age of Sigmar I realized Warhammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> was the better option for me. <br /> <br /> I decided to go with the Space Wolves since I like the models and I like to have some sort of "military" feel to my army. Who doesn't like marines on dogs right? I'm facing a couple of problems right now though and I decided to dedicate my first post to some questions regarding how to build, start and collect my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army:<br /> <br /> 1. How do I start to build a competitive list that can take on most of the army lists that I will encounter on tournaments? I'm looking make a list first and only then start to collect the required models. Any suggestions are much appreciated! <br /> <br /> 2. Which models could I bank on to use in almost every list? In other words: I can't wait to have a decent list, I want to start buying couple of models today.  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> 3. What's the deal with alliances? I'm not very familiar with the exact rules but to my understanding I can mix my Space Wolves with other marine armies? Is that correct? Will this make my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army more viable in the long/short run? Do I need to have both codexes? <br /> <br /> 4. As a starting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> player; which tools do I absolutely need to get for my first game? I've got dice, inch meter, templates, transport box. I already have a plethora of tools to model and paint my army. <br /> <br /> 5. I already ordered some "ice" bases from Fantascape. However, at this point I'm not sure wich kind of bases are "acceptable" in warhammer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. I ordered 25mm infantry bases and 40mm large infantry bases (presumably for my heroes on foot). Did I buy correct bases or was I too impulsive? <br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance for your replies,<br /> <br /> I salute you!<br /> <br /> <br /> OGSODA.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:35:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 1) Most people swear by Thunderwolf Cavalry for good reason, one of the top units in the game. Depending on whether you go <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> or Company of the Great Wolf, you'll want Grey Hunters or Iron Priests w/ Thunderwolves to fill out your mandatory slots. Wolf Battle Leader/Lord on Thunderwolf too for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>. That should be a core for your army, after that you can mix and match what you want to fit your taste. <br /> <br /> 2) Thunderwolf Cavalry will probably pull their weight in every list, if you send them towards the right opponents. Against vehicles, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> and multi-wound characters? Sure! Against blobs of infantry? Probably not. <br /> <br /> 3) Being <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>, you've got access to the best allies, the entire <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(533);'>IoM</span>. This basically means you can use all the nutty little tricks other armies have, such as a 2+ re-rollable save from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>, Hit and Run from White Scars, Furious Charge from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> (for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RAW</span> players to get S10 for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>) and other nasty stuff. Thunderdome is a great example of this. <br /> <br /> 4) Rulebook, top quality banter, beer and pretzels.  <br /> <br /> 5) It's very easy to make ice bases from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> ones. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> are slowly being shifted onto 32mm (but the 25mm/28mm, I forget what they have, are fine), 40mm work fine for Terminators I think. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> need Dreadnought bases, 60mm. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I concur.  Thunderwolf cavalry are one of the best units in the game.  I would definitely build my army around a thunderwolf cavalry spine/base, looking at what units can best support your wolf riding marines.  Grey Hunters in drop pods are also a decent bet too.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Oct 2015 15:35:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:I'm going for space wolves. How should I start? </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Their flyers aren't half bad either. If I remember right, Long Fangs get spitfire, which is handy.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I wish our best unit wasn't so silly.  Space Marines on giant wolves pushes the limit for me.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:15:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are Space Wolf Drop Pod lists worth it anymore, or should I abandon this idea because the marines do it so much better now?<br /> <br /> TWolves are awesome! I think everything about them is badass. I think the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(755);'>NOVA</span> winner was TWolves with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> bikes... or something like that. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:36:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drop pods are still pretty decent for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Drop pods and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> is a pretty fun mix if you want pure wolves.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:39:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/26ff2c1b9c6e1675359196327d34eaa7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/666914/8188101.page"><b>pretre wrote:</b></a><br/>Drop pods are still pretty decent for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Drop pods and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> is a pretty fun mix if you want pure wolves.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes, this.  Your drop pods will be your alpha strike to soften up the enemy before your thunder wolf cavalry charge in.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2015 08:51:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What about Blood Claws? Worth considering or is it Grey Hunters everytime in the troops slot?<br /> <br /> D]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:42:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/666914/8189185.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>What about Blood Claws? Worth considering or is it Grey Hunters everytime in the troops slot?<br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote>They might be cheaper, but they aren't as capable and Grey Hunters have a better special weapon ratio.  At 10 models, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span> get two specials, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(389);'>BC</span> only get one.  This would change if the Claw Marines in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> would get the WS4/BS4 that C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Scouts received.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2015 09:51:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thunderwolf Cavalry first. A big squad of those will go a long way in making all your lists. <br /> <br /> Ven. Dreadnoughts, with blizzard shield and great axe. Not the greatest, not even optimal, but I like them anyways. <br /> <br /> I use the Logan Grimnar supplement to build my lists. Mostly dreadnoughts and thunderwolf cavalry. I haven't used the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(504);'>TWC</span> in a game yet, but they are a proven unit. The dreadnoughts have worked out well for me. Once in combat they are very stubborn to move and they can cause a lot of harm. I could see hoards bogging them down easily, but you kinda accept that when making a list like these, and you can sometimes semi counter it too. Just depends.<br /> <br /> Fun army to use and lots of potential, it's upfront about it's power. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Oct 2015 09:31:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e994b627f07c39ec11f71159fda9b5c8.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/666914/8189185.page"><b>evildrcheese wrote:</b></a><br/>What about Blood Claws? Worth considering or is it Grey Hunters everytime in the troops slot?<br /> <br /> D</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I often see them in max squads with a priest attached.]]></description>
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