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				<description><![CDATA[ At this point in the edition its fairly obvious that allies either make or break a lot of armies.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> are brought by Eldar for bonus's, as are Harlys.  Imperium of Man shenanigans.  The only top army I see that doesn't have any allies is the Necrons.<br /> <br /> Do you think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is going to allow more open ally rules in the next edition to try and balance those armies that don't really have allies? (Tyrnids, Orks, Crons) ?<br /> <br /> and if you think they will fix it or change it how so?<br /> <br /> Im kind of hoping they either flat out allow everyone to ally with anyone or they basically take allies away which I dont see happening because allies = more money for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:29:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ghazkuul]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Eldar don't need any allies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:48:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dozer Blades]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Allies in 7th edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I view allies like any other mechanic.  If your goal is to push the game to it's extremes to win, then it will lead to some eye rolling moments.  That said from a less competitive player i love allies.  My marines can take some guard, an inquisitor can show, the eldar can unite for one doom-full purpose, and chaos gets to be one family again.  I'm ok with that, and the fact that it allows for minor factions to show up and not be screwed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:22:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HoundsofDemos]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ We just need tighter rules. Saying that, that is completely impossible. Allies could be fine if potential stupid combos were removed (i.e. "Precious relics: Wraithguard may only be joined by Wraithseers, no other Independent Character. Zeal of the First: Azrael may grant his save only to Dark Angels models) etc, but with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> the current way it is that's impossible. <br /> <br /> At present the only hope of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> fixing an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> combo is two editions late, and the way they're "balancing" armies at present is just dropping a blanket buff on whole factions. <br /> <br /> Usually all that does is make the strong units stronger and forgotten units more forgotten, see Kroot and Vespids in the absurd new Tau rules. There are a few exceptions-for instance, Walkers have been getting consistent buffs to melee strength as the codexes roll out-but for the most part if there's a lazy way to do something that's how <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is gonna do it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:52:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ the_scotsman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A lot of the issues with allies can be fixed if they take away battle brothers altogether. Prevents unit mix and matching for the ultimate combo while still allowing them in your army, just not to the extent of taking away the point of external balance by having cross-codex contamination.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:56:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grimskul]]></author>
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				<title>Allies in 7th edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4a51b74a9b53943ecdd9dfab72a7e6a2.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/668088/8211187.page"><b>Ghazkuul wrote:</b></a><br/>At this point in the edition its fairly obvious that allies either make or break a lot of armies.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> are brought by Eldar for bonus's, as are Harlys.  Imperium of Man shenanigans.  The only top army I see that doesn't have any allies is the Necrons.<br /> <br /> Do you think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is going to allow more open ally rules in the next edition to try and balance those armies that don't really have allies? (Tyrnids, Orks, Crons) ?<br /> <br /> and if you think they will fix it or change it how so?<br /> <br /> Im kind of hoping they either flat out allow everyone to ally with anyone or they basically take allies away which I dont see happening because allies = more money for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span></div></blockquote>If <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> continues on the trend they've shown from 6th through now, and with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span>, I'd hazard whatever form 8th edition takes, will basically be Unbound armies, much like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span>. <br /> <br /> I'm not a fan of allies. I almost never see it used for fluff purposes, almost exclusively for synergistic shennanigans. I would not miss Allies being massively pared down or removed one bit. However, with the trends of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> of late, if they don't reverse course, I'd be shocked if the future didn't bring an "all unbound" or "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span>" style army composition to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. <br /> <br /> <br /> That said, an easy fix for most Allies issues is to essentially bump everything"up" a level. Battle Brothers become Allies of Convenience, Allies of Convenience become Desperate Allies, Desperate Allies become Come the Apocalypse and Come the Apocalypse can't ally at all.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Oct 2015 03:15:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vaktathi]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would be fun if Orks could ally with Adeptus Mechanicus - lots of cool looted wagons could come from that <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 26 Oct 2015 07:48:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BattleGamer]]></author>
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