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				<title>Quick question about new space marine formations</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So if I read the rules for formations, allied formations, and the strike force command formation, I could take just a an iron hands captain by himself as an allied formation for my army?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 00:48:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AdeptusAwesome]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not familiar with the Iron hands book, but in the newest ravenguard/White Scars one, dont see any way thats legal.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:14:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ All the parts of a the gladius formation are in fact smaller formations if im not mistaken? And while I would not gain benefits of the gladius formation in theory couldn't I ally in a formation as stated by the rules of formation IE being taken alone with out needing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> to support them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:18:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AdeptusAwesome]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/bccc5b68e9eb8c26a283ebd449105a0e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/668422/8216963.page"><b>AdeptusAwesome wrote:</b></a><br/>All the parts of a the gladius formation are in fact smaller formations if im not mistaken? And while I would not gain benefits of the gladius formation in theory couldn't I ally in a formation as stated by the rules of formation IE being taken alone with out needing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span> to support them.</div></blockquote><br /> This is a common mistake.  You see people trying to take wraithknights on their own as a formation due to this same error.<br /> <br /> These detachments say something like this in their descriptions:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Unlike Detachments shown in Warhammer 400000 The rules, it has a Force Organization Chart whose slots are a <b>combination of</b> specific <b>Formations and Army List Entries</b> instead of Battlefield Roles.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So some things are just army list entries and not formations.<br /> <br /> Put another way, a formation is defined by its datasheet -- no datasheet?  Then it can't possibly be a formation.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:32:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ winterman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ okay so in order to take allies of vanilla marines I would have to stick the standard ally <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, yes? also thank you for that very concise answer.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> This Detachment must include at least one Core choice and one Auxiliary choice. It may<br /> include up to one more Core choice, up to three Command choices and any number of<br /> additional Auxiliary choices, in any combination. Only the datasheets listed here can be<br /> included in this Detachment. All units in the Detachment must have the Space Marines<br /> Faction and must be drawn from the same Chapter.<br /> <br /> this is from the gladius strike force page, it referes to them as datasheets?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 01:36:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AdeptusAwesome]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Auxiliary choices are not always formations, but most formations are also Auxiliary choices.<br /> So, if you take the detachment, you get to pick a whole load of aux choices.<br /> If you don't take the detachment, you get to choose from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>, allied detachment and/or formations.<br /> If the Iron Hands Captain is an option to take in the aux slots, you have to take a Core choice to get that, or as an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> in one of the other detachments.<br /> <br /> Datasheets are just pages in the codex. They have the symbols and points costs in the corner of the page.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:36:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skinnereal]]></author>
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