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				<description><![CDATA[ I know its <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>Bols</span>... But please be true!!!<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/40k-rumors-chaos-marines-daemons-latest.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/11/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>-rumors-chaos-marines-daemons-latest.html</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I certainly hope so.  Seems like a reoccurring hope though.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>via a trusted source who requested his identity be withheld:<br /> <br /> Chaos Space Marines<br /> Scheduled for late Q1<br /> <br /> Look for a major rules overhaul (unlike the Tau codex)<br /> <br /> New Codex and Minis<br /> <br /> Not as many new minis as Tau received, but more emphasis on replacing very old minis that are well past their prime. (please Berzerkers, please please please)<br /> <br /> Chaos Daemons<br /> Still early in development<br /> <br /> Tentatively slated for Q3<br /> <br /> Will include any of the plastic Major Daemons not yet released by then. (probably only Nurgle and maybe Slaanesh)<br /> <br /> Look for much of the randomness of the Warp Storm Table to be toned down.<br /> <br /> Instead look for more environmental rules and effects, representing the fury of the Warp itself that must be fought by the opposing army during a Daemonic incursion – in addition to the Daemons themselves.<br /> <br /> Each of the Ruinous powers will be able to influence the effects of the Warpsorm in unique ways – fitting their background (offensively, defensively, etc…).<br /> <br /> ~Have at it folks.  We are hearing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span>/30K is going to be almost non-stop in Q1 of 2016</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hope so, my Chaos Marines have been languishing in my basement for the last few years. I'm still moderately hopeful that an eventual Tzeentch Daemonkin will revitalize Thousand Sons.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll believe it when I see a rumour thread about chaos actually gain traction here. There have been several started in the last few months that die out in a day or two, which in my mind means no imminent chaos. Usually when something is imminent there are several poorly taken photos to follow the extremely vague rumours. I guess it's too early for that though.<br /> <br /> That article might as well say "hey dudes! Chaos in the future sometime but we don't know stuff! Yeah!"<br /> <br /> That being said, I might as well start saving my money now, because an update is absolutely going to happen sometime. I'm just too thick-skinned to get my hopes up about it at this point.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> is crazy if they don't update <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> and daemons soon... it's probably a bloody goldmine, and the daemons release can bring profit for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AOS</span> as well as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. I guess people may be sick of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AOS</span> chaos releases though, with all the blood bound stuff.<br /> <br /> Anyone think there's validity to this?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My first reaction when I saw the title was Errr Threadomancy, than I read the quote (Thanks, Swara, so no one else has to click) and this is all so wishy-washy how can that person be considered a real, reliable source... seriously]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Aside from the pure speculation that Chaos will come at some point in the future I would say no.<br /> <br /> However if Chaos was an easy codex to fix it would be out already. Look at dark angels, the only other comparable codex which was completely redone.<br /> <br /> It makes sense that they are rewriting the whole thing, a while back there was a rumour about a sorcerer enclave and when people thought it sucked the Chaos leaks stopped.<br /> <br /> In my humble opinion, if it was a true rumour, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> saw how badly it was received, they may have pulled an audible and decided to go back to the drawing board to figure out how to properly address this difficult and complex army.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Let's see if Sad Panda or the other super reliable rumour mongers blast this out of the water haha.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Could be this is why <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>Bols</span> comes up with bollocks like that anyway. Provoke reaction from those in the know while <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>Bols</span> clearly doesnt have a clue or good sources and then quote the heck out of what you get on the forums.<br /> <br /> Registering Warseer.org and linking all clicks directly to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BOLS</span> like Larry Vela does (see whois) shows what mentality is at work there.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd like that. It would provide my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(724);'>KDK</span> with some actual allies.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not as many models in the Tau release?<br /> <br /> Chaos needs a super heavy/titan type unit to compete with all the new stuff. I’m worried they’ll just make it the lord of Skulls which would suck since Chaos deserve something that could easily represent each of the 4 powers. I would hope it’s not just a chaos sprue to spikify a titan.<br /> <br /> Every humanoid unit (non demon engine) aside from Raptors needs to be updated. So that's the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> base kit, Havocs, Thousand Sons, Berserkers, Noise Marines, Plague Bearers, Possessed, and Obliterators at a minimum. Terminators and Bikers would be nice. A real cultist kit would be nice. We then need an assortment of lords, not to mention every single special character.<br /> <br /> And this is a minimum assuming no new units which would imply the rules would have to be nearly completely redone just to make the army work. It’d be easier for them to make 1 or 2 overpowered, completely new units at this point.<br /> <br /> I’m sorry, but Chaos needs the Dark Eldar treatment at this point.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just hope we keep the very few good things we have, or that they get better, and the rest gets interresting...<br /> <br /> But *sigh* i highly doubt it...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>Larry Vela aka Big Red</b> - Total rumors: (<font color='green'>194 TRUE</font>) / (<font color='red'>604 FALSE</font>) / (<b>44 <font color='yellow'>PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE</font></b>)<br /> <br /> Unlikely...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/26ff2c1b9c6e1675359196327d34eaa7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236799.page"><b>pretre wrote:</b></a><br/><b>Larry Vela aka Big Red</b> - Total rumors: (<font color='green'>194 TRUE</font>) / (<font color='red'>604 FALSE</font>) / (<b>44 <font color='yellow'>PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE</font></b>)<br /> <br /> Unlikely...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you get this guy as the source?<br /> <br /> Like he is the poster but he is claiming its from another "reliable" source.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9853822c3cf5d74dbe8e0a0a26db9b41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236800.page"><b>Konrax wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/26ff2c1b9c6e1675359196327d34eaa7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236799.page"><b>pretre wrote:</b></a><br/><b>Larry Vela aka Big Red</b> - Total rumors: (<font color='green'>194 TRUE</font>) / (<font color='red'>604 FALSE</font>) / (<b>44 <font color='yellow'>PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE</font></b>)<br /> <br /> Unlikely...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you get this guy as the source?</div></blockquote><br /> Larry Vela is the guy who runs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BOLS</span>. If you go to the link in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>, you'll see:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> Rumors: Chaos Marines & Daemons Latest<br /> Posted by Larry Vela at November 4, 2015]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Besides, pretre attributes anonymous sources to the original poster, I believe, so even if they claim not to be the source, it allows for an assessment of their ability to gatekeep information. <br /> <br /> In Larry's case, it isn't good. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/68ff9a247d97d373594a0e64b56f7a96.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236811.page"><b>Azreal13 wrote:</b></a><br/>Besides, pretre attributes anonymous sources to the original poster, I believe, so even if they claim not to be the source, it allows for an assessment of their ability to gatekeep information. <br /> <br /> In Larry's case, it isn't good. </div></blockquote><br /> Exactly.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Fair enough, however he hasn't been 100% incorrect either.<br /> <br /> Come on 6's]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ooo, look <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BoLS</span> clickbait. Larry 'Arsewipe' Vela strikes again<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236660.page"><b>Warhams-77 wrote:</b></a><br/>Registering Warseer.org and linking all clicks directly to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BOLS</span> like Larry Vela does (see whois) shows what mentality is at work there.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> feth me, he did as well. Quick Whois:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Registrant Contact Information:<br /> Name: Lauro Vela<br /> Organization: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BoLS</span> Interactive LLC</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He's got dakkadakka.org as well. That's low...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9853822c3cf5d74dbe8e0a0a26db9b41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236821.page"><b>Konrax wrote:</b></a><br/>Fair enough, however he hasn't been 100% incorrect either.<br /> <br /> Come on 6's</div></blockquote><br /> He hasn't been 100% incorrect, you are right. That being said I think tea leaves are more accurate.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/26ff2c1b9c6e1675359196327d34eaa7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236844.page"><b>pretre wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> He hasn't been 100% incorrect, you are right. That being said I think tea leaves are more accurate.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Indeed. Surely it's gotten to the point where Vela's fortune telling shouldn't constitute news or rumours? If so, can I recommend a liberal application of this?<br /> <br /> <img src="http://demonpowerproducts.co.uk/images/Tamiya%20Threadlock.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6d4530e3c0624e3fb5481cdce15e865f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236824.page"><b>zedmeister wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> He's got dakkadakka.org as well. That's low...</div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I edited my post to keep it mellow<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/26ff2c1b9c6e1675359196327d34eaa7.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236844.page"><b>pretre wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9853822c3cf5d74dbe8e0a0a26db9b41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236821.page"><b>Konrax wrote:</b></a><br/>Fair enough, however he hasn't been 100% incorrect either.<br /> <br /> Come on 6's</div></blockquote><br /> He hasn't been 100% incorrect, you are right. That being said I think tea leaves are more accurate.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Quite, I could make vague predictions about some factions that haven't been updated recently, mention they'll get some new rules, some new kits and some kit updates sometime in the next year and I'd be right sometimes too. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ By the end of Q1 is within 5 months, to be honest I could assume that Chaos would be coming based on the sole fact that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> really doesn't have all that much to update to the new codex standard.<br /> <br /> There was a post not long ago about the keeper of secrets already being done, but there was no mention of it in this rumour, which concerns me as on its own merit.<br /> <br /> As always take any rumour with some salt, hopefully <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> comes soon but at this rate I think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> will discontinue the Chaos line all together.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Uhh.. why do you think they will discontinue their chaos line? Seems to me it's one of their strongest bits of IP,  and certainly a popular one with the fan base? <br /> <br /> I'm no business major but wouldn't it be incredibly stupid, pants on head stupid, to do that? Not to mention the fluff that would be lost and all the rewriting needed? <br /> <br /> It sounds like an absurd and ridiculous business decision. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6d4530e3c0624e3fb5481cdce15e865f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236824.page"><b>zedmeister wrote:</b></a><br/>Ooo, look <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BoLS</span> clickbait. Larry 'Arsewipe' Vela strikes again<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236660.page"><b>Warhams-77 wrote:</b></a><br/>Registering Warseer.org and linking all clicks directly to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BOLS</span> like Larry Vela does (see whois) shows what mentality is at work there.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> feth me, he did as well. Quick Whois:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Registrant Contact Information:<br /> Name: Lauro Vela<br /> Organization: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(451);'>BoLS</span> Interactive LLC</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> He's got dakkadakka.org as well. That's low...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> What a little gak.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236997.page"><b>AncientSkarbrand wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> I'm no business major but wouldn't it be incredibly stupid, pants on head stupid, to do that? Not to mention the fluff that would be lost and all the rewriting needed? <br /> <br /> It sounds like an absurd and ridiculous business decision. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> While I think he was deliberately exaggerating, and agree that it won't happen, the above simply isn't a guarantee against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> doing something. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236752.page"><b>Nvs wrote:</b></a><br/>Not as many models in the Tau release?<br /> <br /> Chaos needs a super heavy/titan type unit to compete with all the new stuff. I’m worried they’ll just make it the lord of Skulls which would suck since Chaos deserve something that could easily represent each of the 4 powers. I would hope it’s not just a chaos sprue to spikify a titan.<br /> <br /> Every humanoid unit (non demon engine) aside from Raptors needs to be updated. So that's the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> base kit, Havocs, Thousand Sons, Berserkers, Noise Marines, Plague Bearers, Possessed, and Obliterators at a minimum. Terminators and Bikers would be nice. A real cultist kit would be nice. We then need an assortment of lords, not to mention every single special character.<br /> <br /> And this is a minimum assuming no new units which would imply the rules would have to be nearly completely redone just to make the army work. It’d be easier for them to make 1 or 2 overpowered, completely new units at this point.<br /> <br /> I’m sorry, but Chaos needs the Dark Eldar treatment at this point.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  If by Dark Eldar treatment you mean amazing models, then: Yes!<br /> If you mean the crappy rules they have, then no way...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8237046.page"><b>Nocturnus wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236752.page"><b>Nvs wrote:</b></a><br/>Not as many models in the Tau release?<br /> <br /> Chaos needs a super heavy/titan type unit to compete with all the new stuff. I’m worried they’ll just make it the lord of Skulls which would suck since Chaos deserve something that could easily represent each of the 4 powers. I would hope it’s not just a chaos sprue to spikify a titan.<br /> <br /> Every humanoid unit (non demon engine) aside from Raptors needs to be updated. So that's the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> base kit, Havocs, Thousand Sons, Berserkers, Noise Marines, Plague Bearers, Possessed, and Obliterators at a minimum. Terminators and Bikers would be nice. A real cultist kit would be nice. We then need an assortment of lords, not to mention every single special character.<br /> <br /> And this is a minimum assuming no new units which would imply the rules would have to be nearly completely redone just to make the army work. It’d be easier for them to make 1 or 2 overpowered, completely new units at this point.<br /> <br /> I’m sorry, but Chaos needs the Dark Eldar treatment at this point.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  If by Dark Eldar treatment you mean amazing models, then: Yes!<br /> If you mean the crappy rules they have, then no way...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> As far as I am concerned, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> box set is perfect. There's no need for an update (and thus price hike) of this core troop models. However, bikers, zerkers and havocs clearly need an uplift in box content and style.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/440c6453931f9623ae6934e21050c63f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8237205.page"><b>Warzoner wrote:</b></a><br/>As far as I am concerned, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> box set is perfect. There's no need for an update (and thus price hike) of this core troop models. However, bikers, zerkers and havocs clearly need an uplift in box content and style.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I largely agree, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> box is great, but the inclusion of a few additional heavy weapons would be nice as well.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Some bikes would be great as we have no lord or Sorc on bike models in the line.<br /> <br /> Same with any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> mounted on anything including juggerlord.<br /> <br /> Havocs box is a joke.<br /> <br /> Terminators are very scarse on options.<br /> <br /> Berserkers...<br /> <br /> All the cult marines really...<br /> <br /> Cultist boxed set would be good<br /> <br /> Just to name a few kits needing work]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ lets see, lets see ...<br /> <br />  <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Chaos Space Marines<br /> Scheduled for late Q1</div></blockquote><br /> I still wait for my plastic fleshhounds, tau in september, kroots as mini dex, knights with shadowsword guns, tzeentch daemonkin, ...<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Look for a major rules overhaul (unlike the Tau codex)</div></blockquote><br /> fixing units with formations and decurion-style-detachments (guys, we really need a name for it!) is a major rules overhaul for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>New Codex and Minis</div></blockquote><br /> They forgot the datacards and painting guide! You know, the things we get for each new release <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Not as many new minis as Tau received, but more emphasis on replacing very old minis that are well past their prime. </div></blockquote><br /> Great news that they plan to update models from 2nd edition - would never guessed that<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Chaos Daemons<br /> Still early in development</div></blockquote><br /> let's apply a bunch of salt here - everything that starts with "still early in development" is mostly clickbait^^<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Tentatively slated for Q3</div></blockquote><br /> there is nothing like tentatively slated  for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> prime (unlike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>) ... their releases are planned way ahead in time <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Will include any of the plastic Major Daemons not yet released by then. (probably only Nurgle and maybe Slaanesh)</div></blockquote><br /> what are major daemons? greater daemons? beasts? special characters? of course we will get these things in plastic, sooner or later^^<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Look for much of the randomness of the Warp Storm Table to be toned down.</div></blockquote><br /> like they did with every last codex <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Instead look for more environmental rules and effects, representing the fury of the Warp itself that must be fought by the opposing army during a Daemonic incursion – in addition to the Daemons themselves.</div></blockquote><br /> what does that mean? things like a sea of blood? no rules (for big enviromental changes) if there are no models for it ...<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Each of the Ruinous powers will be able to influence the effects of the Warpsorm in unique ways – fitting their background (offensively, defensively, etc…).</div></blockquote><br /> What is a Warpsorm? <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is it not called a warpstorm table?<br /> <br /> Correct me if I'm wrong I'm a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> player not a demons one]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I won't hold my breath, but I wouldn't be sad if it happens.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5cc63cfb8ddd93c8425ee6501bee7c2e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8237398.page"><b>Atia wrote:</b></a><br/>fixing units with formations and decurion-style-detachments (guys, we really need a name for it!)...</div></blockquote><br /> Its a 'super-detachment' , from the prefix <a href="http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/super-" target="_new" rel="nofollow">super-</a>  <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0"> .]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am liking "Multi-Formation Detachment" or MFD for Decurions.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9853822c3cf5d74dbe8e0a0a26db9b41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8237394.page"><b>Konrax wrote:</b></a><br/>Some bikes would be great as we have no lord or Sorc on bike models in the line.<br /> <br /> Same with any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> mounted on anything including juggerlord.<br /> <br /> Havocs box is a joke.<br /> <br /> Terminators are very scarse on options.<br /> <br /> Berserkers...<br /> <br /> All the cult marines really...<br /> <br /> Cultist boxed set would be good<br /> <br /> Just to name a few kits needing work</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> could just about redo everything that isn't a vehicle... or I guess Raptors.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> should be thinking about how Chaos marines are distinguished from Loyalist marines. Basic Chaos Marines should have unique special weapon options that loyalists don't have; whether it's a pre-heresy weapon or something created by the dark Mechanicum there is plenty of room for more.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If we don't get at least 1 new infantry special/heavy weapon upgrade option... <img src="/s/i/a/80f14e5ffd51cd1bc51199153de3eacf.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/80f14e5ffd51cd1bc51199153de3eacf.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0">  <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> I won't believe a lick of anything Chaos related until actual photos appear.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> has kicked us square in the 'nads for so long now,  there's no reason to ever get our faint hopes up.<br /> <br /> And seriously?  [b]Fewer]/b] kits than Tau got?!  I call <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> right there.  Our entire model line bar Raptors & Hellbrutes needs to introduced to a trash compactor and re-built from scratch.  And is it <i>really</i> too much to ask to have actual options put into our kits this time <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>?!]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Experiment 626]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9853822c3cf5d74dbe8e0a0a26db9b41.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8236821.page"><b>Konrax wrote:</b></a><br/>Fair enough, however he hasn't been 100% incorrect either.<br /> <br /> Come on 6's</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> A broken clock, so on and so forth.<br /> <br /> I do HOPE these are true. I've wanted to build a fluffy Thousand Sons army for a while now, and if <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> supported my obsession they'd have a good chunk of change headed their way.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238160.page"><b>Experiment 626 wrote:</b></a><br/>And seriously?  <b>Fewer</b> kits than Tau got?!  I call <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> right there.  Our entire model line bar Raptors & Hellbrutes needs to introduced to a trash compactor and re-built from scratch.  And is it <i>really</i> too much to ask to have actual options put into our kits this time <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>?!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Read the whole quote..."Not as many <b>new minis</b> as Tau received, but more emphasis on replacing very old minis that are well past their prime"<br /> <br /> So basically exactly what you're asking for <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> But again....<b>IF</b> this is true. (Which is isn't)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238160.page"><b>Experiment 626 wrote:</b></a><br/>And seriously?  [b]Fewer]/b] kits than Tau got?!  I call <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> right there.  Our entire model line bar Raptors & Hellbrutes needs to introduced to a trash compactor and re-built from scratch.  And is it <i>really</i> too much to ask to have actual options put into our kits this time <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>?!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Depends on how you count Tau kits. <br /> Fire Warriors<br /> Crisis Suit Team<br /> Crisis Suit Commander<br /> Ghostkeel<br /> Stormsurge<br /> (Drones)<br /> Tidewall Line<br /> Tidewall Droneport<br /> Tidewall Gunrig<br /> <br /> Depending on the count, that is 5-10 new kits for Tau. You could give <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> 4-5 kits and still fall easily in the "fewer kits than Tau"<br /> While there are still major finecast or hybrid kits, I wouldn't really expect to see plastic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Berzerkers, or Terminators get redone yet. Most logical would be Havocs, Obliterators/Mutilators, 1-3 of the missing cult troops, and maybe a big centerpiece like a Lord of War that is not Khorne. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 07:41:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tzeentch 7 sided dice have been spotted in a promo for some gift bonus type thing. Could be <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span> related or chaos in general as there is also new chaos t shirts shown]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:53:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If these rumours are true, then I seriously hope Chaos players get the codex they deserve. <br /> <br /> They're a loyal bunch, but unfortunately, history shows that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> have never been able to do a decent chaos codex. <br /> <br /> Some people want individual legions, some people want renegades, and others want complete freedom of choice between marines and daemons, as the background says it should be. <br /> <br /> Sadly, I think any future codex will go the way of previous efforts: a horrible, generic  mess of a compromise that succeeds only in annoying every Chaos player out there. <br /> <br /> Am I correct in saying that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> haven't even done separate releases for Chaos legions on dataslates?  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Potential goldmine there. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:11:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b807de1528fc03e87f441823c5c7048.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238651.page"><b>Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Am I correct in saying that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> haven't even done separate releases for Chaos legions on dataslates?  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Potential goldmine there. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nope. I think the closest Chaos Legion dataslate is Kharn's Butcherhorde formation. ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b1e23f3b3bb3e20cc6d251679e35868.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238664.page"><b>angelofvengeance wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b807de1528fc03e87f441823c5c7048.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238651.page"><b>Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Am I correct in saying that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> haven't even done separate releases for Chaos legions on dataslates?  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Potential goldmine there. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nope. I think the closest Chaos Legion dataslate is Kharn's Butcherhorde formation. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> If they had an ounce of sense, they would have brought out a few more by now. Very short sighted by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 10:45:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b807de1528fc03e87f441823c5c7048.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238651.page"><b>Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:</b></a><br/>If these rumours are true, then I seriously hope Chaos players get the codex they deserve. <br /> <br /> They're a loyal bunch, but unfortunately, history shows that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> have never been able to do a decent chaos codex. <br /> <br />  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not quite true. 3.5 was incredible even though fol said it was broken and people only used certain rules which was as ever internet <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> but hey ho]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:04:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys, now feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but my buddy knows a guy who knows a store manager who talked to Phil Kelly once and he said there is no new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex coming in Q1!  Instead, we'll get a new Khorne daemonkin codex!<br /> <br /> No new plastic berserkers unfortunately, but instead we'll get a new dual plastic kit that builds Slaughtermongers armed with Slaughteraxes or Ragequitters armed with, of course, Exalted Rageflails!  Slaughtermongers are Crimson Slaughter Chaos Space Marines who love Khorne with all their body (including their peepee) and Ragequitters are former Chaos legionaries who got so enraged that their legions stopped being legions and started being warbanz that they quit being legionaries and started being Ragequitters!<br /> <br /> Both Slaughtermongers and Ragequitters are totally ripped and don't wear shirt armour so you can see their rippling pecs and abs.  Their power armoured pants give them a 5+ armour save in close combat - except the champion - he has a bunch of skulls in his stomach and is actually dynamically posed passing one in a harrowing mid-combat bowel movement (I'm told he looks really sweet).<br /> <br /> Can't wait til 2016!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 11:35:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Abadabadoobaddon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9be40cee5b0eee1462c82c6964087ff9.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238747.page"><b>Abadabadoobaddon wrote:</b></a><br/>Hey guys, now feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but my buddy knows a guy who knows a store manager who talked to Phil Kelly once and he said there is no new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex coming in Q1!  Instead, we'll get a new Khorne daemonkin codex!<br /> <br /> No new plastic berserkers unfortunately, but instead we'll get a new dual plastic kit that builds Slaughtermongers armed with Slaughteraxes or Ragequitters armed with, of course, Exalted Rageflails!  Slaughtermongers are Crimson Slaughter Chaos Space Marines who love Khorne with all their body (including their peepee) and Ragequitters are former Chaos legionaries who got so enraged that their legions stopped being legions and started being warbanz that they quit being legionaries and started being Ragequitters!<br /> <br /> Both Slaughtermongers and Ragequitters are totally ripped and don't wear shirt armour so you can see their rippling pecs and abs.  Their power armoured pants give them a 5+ armour save in close combat - except the champion - he has a bunch of skulls in his stomach and is actually dynamically posed passing one in a harrowing mid-combat bowel movement (I'm told he looks really sweet).<br /> <br /> Can't wait til 2016!</div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/1283123f8f457630e6d6e616f324c2d6.gif" border="0">  If you don't have anything worth saying then don't. post Please don't spam crap peanut gallery humour like this. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 5 Nov 2015 13:06:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ angelofvengeance]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New CSM codex and Demons shortly after in Q1 2016???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b1e23f3b3bb3e20cc6d251679e35868.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238862.page"><b>angelofvengeance wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9be40cee5b0eee1462c82c6964087ff9.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/669386/8238747.page"><b>Abadabadoobaddon wrote:</b></a><br/>Hey guys, now feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but my buddy knows a guy who knows a store manager who talked to Phil Kelly once and he said there is no new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex coming in Q1!  Instead, we'll get a new Khorne daemonkin codex!<br /> <br /> No new plastic berserkers unfortunately, but instead we'll get a new dual plastic kit that builds Slaughtermongers armed with Slaughteraxes or Ragequitters armed with, of course, Exalted Rageflails!  Slaughtermongers are Crimson Slaughter Chaos Space Marines who love Khorne with all their body (including their peepee) and Ragequitters are former Chaos legionaries who got so enraged that their legions stopped being legions and started being warbanz that they quit being legionaries and started being Ragequitters!<br /> <br /> Both Slaughtermongers and Ragequitters are totally ripped and don't wear shirt armour so you can see their rippling pecs and abs.  Their power armoured pants give them a 5+ armour save in close combat - except the champion - he has a bunch of skulls in his stomach and is actually dynamically posed passing one in a harrowing mid-combat bowel movement (I'm told he looks really sweet).<br /> <br /> Can't wait til 2016!</div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/1283123f8f457630e6d6e616f324c2d6.gif" border="0">  If you don't have anything worth saying then don't. post Please don't spam crap peanut gallery humour like this. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> We're talking Larry Vela rumors here. This thread is crap peanut gallery humor from beginning to end.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <font color='red'>If we get anything more concrete I'm sure there'll be a thread soon enough.</font>]]></description>
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