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				<description><![CDATA[ Someone told me that Feast of Blades is not happening anymore, is this true?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 01:41:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <font color='orange'>Moving to Tournament Discussions</font>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:03:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Short answer, yes, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:09:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I heard it was a combination of Funds and 7th edition.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:21:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think there were attendance issues leading up to the last year when the winner of the event had an illegal list and the runner up had cheating dice. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:23:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kimchi Gamer]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is there a source on the cheating dice thing? That's a pretty serious allegation (much moreso than an illeagal list) and I've never heard of that actually happening at a big event (particularly someone placing high at it, where there is a lot of scrutiny).<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:48:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f19fc6250b6a40ec37485cc3386a3c13.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274607.page"><b>RiTides wrote:</b></a><br/>Is there a source on the cheating dice thing? That's a pretty serious allegation (much moreso than an illeagal list) and I've never heard of that actually happening at a big event (particularly someone placing high at it, where there is a lot of scrutiny).<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> From what I hear, he admitted to it. But he said he bought a giant thing of dice second hand and just used that and like 3 dice in it where modified so the two was a five.<br /> The illegal list from what i remember was someone not understanding how to build detachment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 02:54:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ hotsauceman1]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I heard it was funding/attendance.  They had some pretty weird rulings/house <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>faq</span> last year.  I guess people didn't like their version of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. <br /> <br /> That and they aren't up with that there 7th edition that the kids are playing now-a-days.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 04:37:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Budzerker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a5e13e449251b6793214a73b78416d30.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274616.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f19fc6250b6a40ec37485cc3386a3c13.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274607.page"><b>RiTides wrote:</b></a><br/>Is there a source on the cheating dice thing? That's a pretty serious allegation (much moreso than an illeagal list) and I've never heard of that actually happening at a big event (particularly someone placing high at it, where there is a lot of scrutiny).<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> From what I hear, he admitted to it. But he said he bought a giant thing of dice second hand and just used that and like 3 dice in it where modified so the two was a five.<br /> The illegal list from what i remember was someone not understanding how to build detachment.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not true according to the player.<br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:34:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dozer Blades]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The FoB results thread from last year has the details regarding the dice and the list.  Below is the filtered version where Kenny (of the Long War podcast/etc) told his side of the dice issue.  <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/618866.page?userfilterid=35235" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/618866.page?userfilterid=35235</a><br /> <br /> The list issue is a bit more complicated and revolves around how Feast of Blades was allowing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> units but not <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(60);'>IA</span> armies, but not clearly communicating how that worked with space marine characters.  The player's PoV is below<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/618866.page?userfilterid=90426" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/618866.page?userfilterid=90426</a><br /> <br /> As far as FoB, I have heard rumor and have my own speculations but the only clear cut info is they tried to sell the 'business'' awhile back.  Not sure how that shook out though.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=849768808422884&id=122912597775179" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=849768808422884&<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span>=122912597775179</a><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:49:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ winterman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d9acdb07d622b7ee123aac947957a507.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8275936.page"><b>Dozer Blades wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a5e13e449251b6793214a73b78416d30.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274616.page"><b>hotsauceman1 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f19fc6250b6a40ec37485cc3386a3c13.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274607.page"><b>RiTides wrote:</b></a><br/>Is there a source on the cheating dice thing? That's a pretty serious allegation (much moreso than an illeagal list) and I've never heard of that actually happening at a big event (particularly someone placing high at it, where there is a lot of scrutiny).<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> From what I hear, he admitted to it. But he said he bought a giant thing of dice second hand and just used that and like 3 dice in it where modified so the two was a five.<br /> The illegal list from what i remember was someone not understanding how to build detachment.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not true according to the player.<br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> Ok, I should have clarified it was hearsay. my bad.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's all extremely informative and reasonable, thanks winterman!!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Feast of Blades problems were definitely more attendance-oriented than anything to do with the final table problems, that was more likely just the final nail in the coffin; what was previously a ~100 person <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> 2 years ago was only attended by like 20 or 30 people last year.<br /> <br /> You have to understand FoB's format--they used smaller tournaments all around the country as "qualifiers" to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> at FoB.  It wasn't anything particularly exclusive--pretty much any local tournament could sign up as a qualifier--but it was their gimmick and it worked for them.  You had to finish Top 3 in a qualifier to be "invited" to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> at Feast of Blades.<br /> <br /> However, that format put them in a pretty awful position in regards to 7th Edition.  When 7th came out and the internet started shouting about the need for some sort of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQs</span> or extensive house rules to make the game playable (due to superheavies/D weapons/all units scoring/daemon summoning/etc, most of which are already relatively accepted parts of the game), FoB had to step up <b>waaaaay</b> too early and come out with their rulings, because they had to get things in order for their qualifier tournaments.<br /> <br /> Except they went <i>way</i> too far--nowadays, about the strictest "large" tournament format we see is ITC with their 2+ re-roll and Invis nerfs.  Feast of Blades originally came out saying they were going to do a unit-by-unit, wargear-by-wargear, all-inclusive ban/allow list.  Things like the Grimoire and certain units (far beyond Superheavies) would be outright disallowed.  This was their first mistake--not just for being too strict, but also for injecting a ton of uncertainty, since it was never finalized.  It's very hard to sign up for a tournament when you don't know if they're going to tell you half your army is illegal in a few weeks.  People have to make travel plans, take time off work, book hotels, etc etc.<br /> <br /> They held this stance for a few months, and it was costing them a ton of signups (including myself, as I'd attended previously, but wasn't going anywhere near it in that state).<br /> <br /> Meanwhile, other tournaments were going on and proving that 7th Edition wasn't actually The-Sky-Is-Falling level broken as everyone had feared.<br /> <br /> Their second mistake was the far bigger one.  Once they saw that the proposed comp rules were costing them signups, they did a <b>complete</b> reversal.  They instead became more or less the most open <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> of the entire year, with virtually nothing disallowed, even in terms of list construction (the one area where pretty much every tournament imposes some sort of rules).<br /> <br /> So, while that's <i>also</i> a rather flawed tournament system that isn't likely going to attract players, it also <b>completely alienated</b> the ones who <i>had</i> signed up, expecting a heavily-comped toned-down version of 7th, to then have the floodgates kicked open and sent headfirst into no-holds-barred 7th Edition.<br /> <br /> It was basically bad news all around.  I'm not sure if they allowed people to get refunds or what, but even if they didn't, I'm sure a bunch of the people who signed up just decided not to even show once the rules change happened.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ DJ3]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Too bad about the FOB.  I ran an event for them a few years ago and they seemed to have a good grasp on what they were doing.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Fishboy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e488094234c3f29a939304de53efcac4.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671152/8274607.page"><b>RiTides wrote:</b></a><br/>Is there a source on the cheating dice thing? That's a pretty serious allegation (much moreso than an illeagal list) and I've never heard of that actually happening at a big event (particularly someone placing high at it, where there is a lot of scrutiny).<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Someone at a Beakycon ( 2011, or 2012 I think) was caught using <a href="http://www.dicegamedepot.com/character-builders/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">"Character Builder" Dice</a>.  Amazingly, the cheater was not insta-banned  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0">   <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>, and I'm not sure that I do, the cheater was connected to something calling itself the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> wrecking crew.<br /> <br /> Here's a Dakka thread for it, <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/480973.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/480973.page</a>  And I suspect a quick Google search will reveal more.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Red Harvest]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Part of the falling apart may have been due to them charging stores to use their format as qualifier events. <br /> <br /> That was always off putting to those of us here in Pasadena.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They also charged higher than average price too. average tournament round here is 5$<br /> 20$ was what they where charging. and none of that went to prize support.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span> for the Con with the dice cheat. We have run six events and still going strong while others have folded.]]></description>
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