http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k), and also a Chimera I got as a present. What do you guys recommend starting with? For the Tau I was thinking:

Codex: Tau Empire
Coldstar Suit
Crisis Battlesuit Team
2x Fire Warriors

For the Guard:
Codex: Astra Militarum
3x Scions (For a CCS and a vet squad)
Cadian Defense Force
Primaris Psyker (Or a suitable conversion)

How are these for first purchases? I think they take me to 750 in each army, and make a somewhat decent list. C+C Greatly appreciated. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282731.page GMT ccs since you get 1 from the cadian defense force.

And shock troops can easily be converted into vet squads. Buy plasma gun right arm and left arm from bits site and you can easily make a vet squad full of plasma or melta guns for less then 10$.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282751.page GMT CCS and a PCS. The CCS would have carapace, and I like the Scion command squad better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282760.page GMT WYSIWYG due to how gakky it can be to model.

To highlight this point, look at the official Creed and Kell models. Both of them have carapace armor on the profile, but respectively Creed is wearing less (of the exact same) armor as your standard guardsmen due to no shoulder pads, whilst Kel only has gauntlets and kneepads over the standard guardsmen.

You could use Scions, but you'd honestly run into way more people getting confused / raising an eyebrow at your how your scion models are actually 'standard' guard vets, compared to literally 0 complaining that you didn't model carapace on some regular guardsmen. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282774.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282778.page GMT
Though it's the same kit, I would recommend instead you build a regular crisis commander that gels well with the crisis squad, depending on what you want them to do. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8282785.page GMT CAD, Tetras are a good option.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283454.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283454.page GMT AM I'm set if I pick that, but for the Tau how's this:

Codex: Tau Empire
Crisis Commander
Crisis Team
2x Fire Warriors
Pathfinders
Broadside]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283502.page GMT
Here's a quick spitball based on the units you mentioned above.

Crisis commander
-2x missile pods
-target lock
-drone controller

Crisis suits
-shas'vre
--command and control node
--multi-spectrum sensor suite
--puretide nanochip
-shas'ui x2
--2x missile pods
--target locks

Fire warrior strikers x2
-10 units each, pulse rifles.

Broadsides x2
Smart missiles
High-yield missile pod
Early warning override

Should come up to around 750 points in a CAD.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283671.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283772.page GMT

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You might want to look at the new IG & Tau formations before you start your army, if you want to field something that is more effective. Since they give huge buffs and some allow you avoid paying the useless unit tax. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283780.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/671558/8283780.page GMT