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				<title>When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Two staples of the Imperial Guard (Astra militarum doesn't exist) fluff that get overlooked every time. They have models, but haven't ever had rules. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> need to get its gak together....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:31:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Loon]]></author>
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				<title>When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/673999/8331575.page"><b>Loon wrote:</b></a><br/> They have models, but haven't ever had rules. </div></blockquote><br /> Not precisely true... Gaunt used to have rules. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:36:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Were they official rules?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:38:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes. They were a Chapter Approved addition back in 3rd edition.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:44:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ insaniak]]></author>
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				<title>When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Gaunt's rules can be found on P. 53 of the 2003 Imperial Guard Codex.<br /> <br /> cain on the other hand, normal lord commissar with a veteran BS4 bodyguard with a meltagun. and Null Rod rules from the demonhunters or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:44:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ And this is what the model for Gaunt looked like...<br /> <br /> <img src="https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0313/91/1397197790735.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:50:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ghaz]]></author>
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				<title>Re:When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> still sells the model, though who knows for how long.  <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gaunt-s-Ghosts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gaunt-s-Ghosts</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Dec 2015 02:06:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:When will we get commissar Ciaphas Cain/ Commissar Gaunt rules????</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Actually Gaunts first and only got a a chapter approved complete with all your favourites from the books. It had some 5 or so special characters and special regimental doctrines. Gaunt as a special character was, as stated by @carldooley, published in the 4th edition guards codex. Cain has ha numerous fan made rules as well as an forgeworld model but  was never given official rules. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Dec 2015 11:33:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nerak]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Never.<br /> <br /> I don't know the details of the relationship among <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, the Black Library, Forgeworld and the authors but other than Guant we have never seen a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> character get official <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> rules or a model.<br /> <br /> However we are seeing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(320);'>HH</span> characters get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> rules.<br /> <br /> It may just be a feeling in the studio of 'not invented here' or it may be an issue of copyrights/royalties/incentive payments.<br /> <br /> In the US licence work is almost always work for fire, that is the licencor (Disney, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> comics, Hasbro) owns the copyrights.  But writers usually get a bonus if their characters are used elsewhere, ie if your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> character is turned into an action figure or used on TV.  Which sometimes means companies don't want to use more recent creations because they would cost money.<br /> <br /> In Britian, I don't know how it works but I know it is more complicated.  I've heard that BBC for example, does not necessarily own all the Dr Who characters and sometimes the original creator maintined the rights.  Didn't the rights to K-9 end up somewhere else?<br /> <br /> So my gut feeling is never, and reason is lawyers, contracts and money or just the fear of getting involved in them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Related, I don't think any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(327);'>BL</span> characters have appeared in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(386);'>FFG</span> games, is that correct?<br /> <br /> No official stats for Eisenhorn or Guant for example.<br /> <br /> But there is an Eisenhorn video game coming.<br /> <br /> Of course Eisenhorn was created by the studio for the 54mm Inquisitor game, not by Abnett.<br /> <br /> So yeah.  Complicated.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Dec 2015 12:06:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kid_Kyoto]]></author>
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