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Are they deployed elsewhere? - ever used in the main nid' army?

And why are they mostly in space hulks and no other nid forms also in space hulks?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8343600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8343600.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
When the Hive fleet arrives, Genestealers and their cultists burst from the infrastructure and infiltrated positions of power to sow enough destruction for the Hive Fleet to sweep away the planet. Then, just before the Hive Fleet wins the war the Genestealer survival instinct kicks in and they all scramble aboard any starship fleeing the Tyranids, spreading the infection further.

Hive Fleets do make use of Genestealers as shock troops, but Hive Fleet 'Stealers are a fresh batch, straight off the birthing tube. And they will try get off world when the fight is going their way, Genestealers don't want to be absorbed by the Hive Fleet like other tyranids are when the war is done. Look up Genestealer cults, they are rather interesting. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8343622.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8343622.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8347888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8347888.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
A 'stealer cult can overwhelm a planet and leave it essentially helpless in the face of a hive fleet.

Equally, you'll often find stealers infiltrating inhabited planets. Once a world has been thoroughly infiltrated, sometimes it will start 'exporting' stealers on visiting starships.

But yes, genestealers are also used as battlefield shock troops by the hive fleets - it's their presence on the battlefield that led the imperium to realise that they were a tyranid creature; genestealers had been 'a thing' for a long time before ever the hive fleets were encountered.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8356904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8356904.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8356977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8356977.page GMT Re:Are genestealers only found in space hulks? Dark Disciple (the second book in Anthony Reynolds' excellent Word Bearers trilogy) has the Word Bearers encounter a Genestealer cult on an Imperial moon. The genestealers have infiltrated the moon with a cult and are luring Hive Fleet Leviathan towards Imperial space. They're by no means the main antagonists, but it was an interesting aspect to the story.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Disciple_(Novel)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8358486.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8358486.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? 13th Legion as well, and the Cain books.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8361211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8361211.page GMT Re:Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
The Genestealer cycle is as follows,

A Genestealer will use its hypnotic powers to subdue and infect sentient creatures, such as humans, with their Oviposters. These humans become enslaved to the pure blood genestealer, which becomes a Broodlord. The genetic makeup of the infected individuals changes and they become carriers.

These humans are compelled to reproduce, the offspring of these individuals are known as Genestealer Hybrids. This is how Genestealer cults are created.

Over successive generations, the Hybrids have different physical forms. Eventually, the collective Gestalt Consciousness of the cult becomes strong enough for a hive fleet to lock on to. As the Hive Fleet approaches, the Cult will destabilize the planet's defenses from within the population. Leading to the victory of the hive fleet.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Genestealer]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8362645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8362645.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? GW's idea of pure galactic evil. A grossly bloated, blinged-out robber baron riding around in a limousine. In the original Death Wing, the Patriarch enslaves the pure, simple natives, and forces them to work soul-crushing jobs in polluting factories.

The more modern Broodlord is slimmer, faster, and most probably an IT overlord. Forcing lazy natives to spend their days in soul-crushing jobs in cubicles, staring at computer screens. He probably rides in a BMW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364513.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
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 Gobbla wrote:
You left out that before Broodlords was the Patriarch. GW's idea of pure galactic evil. A grossly bloated, blinged-out robber baron riding around in a limousine. In the original Death Wing, the Patriarch enslaves the pure, simple natives, and forces them to work soul-crushing jobs in polluting factories.

The more modern Broodlord is slimmer, faster, and most probably an IT overlord. Forcing lazy natives to spend their days in soul-crushing jobs in cubicles, staring at computer screens. He probably rides in a BMW.


The fluff is muddles at this point. Broodlord and Patriarch might be the same now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364644.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
There is some old fluff about how when a Patriarch expires, his replacement comes from one of the eldest Purestrains in the cult. So the way I think of it in my GCult is that the Patriarch and Broodlord are different stages in Genestealer evolution. The Patriarch is what he is in the old fluff, while the Broodlords -- younger and more combat-oriented than the Patriarch -- form a court of sorts. If the Patriarch dies, one of the Broodlords ascends to become the new Patriarch.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8364709.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? stupid, incapable of thinking normally - it's literally a Purestrain with gigantism and mental development problems.

The Patriarch, on the other hand, is simply the oldest and most intelligent member of the cult. In most cults, that will be the Purestrain Genestealer that spawned said cult, although if a cult has lost its original Purestrain, then a first generation hybrid, or alternately a fourth generation magos or purestrain could take the role.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8365126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8365126.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? hq choice then the broodlord turned up and the patriach became more pro active and as things stand theres not much fluff on cults and there organization just what they do when a fleet turns up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8365154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8365154.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
 Grey Templar wrote:
 Gobbla wrote:
You left out that before Broodlords was the Patriarch. GW's idea of pure galactic evil. A grossly bloated, blinged-out robber baron riding around in a limousine. In the original Death Wing, the Patriarch enslaves the pure, simple natives, and forces them to work soul-crushing jobs in polluting factories.

The more modern Broodlord is slimmer, faster, and most probably an IT overlord. Forcing lazy natives to spend their days in soul-crushing jobs in cubicles, staring at computer screens. He probably rides in a BMW.


The fluff is muddles at this point. Broodlord and Patriarch might be the same now.


I'm choosing to believe that the difference is simply one of environment and "upbringing"; from the original fluff, a Patriarch was simply the purestrain genestealer which began whichever infestation/cult on a given planet. The implication is that any genestealer can become a Patriarch, but only if given the right environment. By comparison, a Broodlord has similar physical changes, but the manifestation of psychic ability is greatly reduced (if present at all). I would speculate that a Broodlord results from different pheromone/psychic signals from the hivemind; in large enough numbers, one 'stealer will become a Broodlord in the presence of other 'stealers (and the formation of one suppresses the formation of another), while on its own, that same process also enhances the psychic as well as physical growth and thus a Patriarch is formed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373040.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373045.page GMT Are genestealers only found in space hulks?
 NoPoet wrote:
Back in the days of Space Crusade, Stealers were just aliens who infested space hulks. These days the fluff states that they are kind of like "Runners" from Stargate Atlantis - they are sent ahead of the swarm with the impulse to constantly stay ahead of the Hive Fleets. Whenever they encounter a prey species, they attempt to corrupt them. In the old fluff, this created a kind of psychic beacon which summoned the HIve Fleets.


Still does. GW keep their references to full on Genestealer Cults a little veiled at the moment, but even in the recent Shield of Baal campaign the opening battle is on a neighboring world infested with Genestealers which draws the Cryptoid Tendril towards Baal.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/674554/8373377.page GMT