<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition?
The skiitari don't have tanks durable enough to warrant repairs from the Dominus

They don't have transports to protect the Electropriests, who are crap without them.

They don't help mitigate the limitations of the battle servitors.

But inquisition on the other hand is dirt cheap, allowing for more points spent on CM troops to pump up canticles. They have 5 fire point chimeras to allow shooty Electropriests to maybe not suck. They have land raiders to protect choppy priests until they reach combat and to warrant Dominus repairs. They have cheap psychers to twin-link your servitors. They have buff-quisitors to add rad grenades and psychic support to choppy priests.

Is this a match made in heaven? Or simply a better matchup than skiitari making it seem better because of how awful Skiitari are out of convocation?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365317.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365317.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? IMO. I agree with the current meta the cult are a bit better due to a great hq, destroyers with grav , and durable killy robots, but that is all the cult really has anyway. The elctro-priests are just plain garbage. The Skitarii are a little more versatile. They both need transports though. Really, cult and Skitarii should have been a single army and codex. Space wolves are a great way for cheap transports if that is all you want. Inquisition might be just as good depending on what you take (maybe a little bit more points investment).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365358.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? hq, and troops that are great against anything with good saves, at a huge cost, some good but suffers from high point cost robots, and hot garbage priests. Skitarii seem to have all the best units. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365502.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition?
 Orock wrote:
Funny I always thought of culture mechanicus as the weak link and crap outside war convocation. You get a great hq, and troops that are great against anything with good saves, at a huge cost, some good but suffers from high point cost robots, and hot garbage priests. Skitarii seem to have all the best units.


There is a LOT of truth to that. The only thing that makes the Skitarii a little weak in the formation is you have to take one of everything and not and multiples other than bigger unit sizes. It isn't that the cult units (other than elctro garbage) is bad, it is that you are forced into playing a small number of troops with little variety and the points cost of the cult prevents the possibility of a second knight or maybe some other allies to shore up weaknesses. The War Convocation would be a horrible formation if not for the free upgrades which turns it into a good, fairly competitive formation that isn't over the top. The biggest problem with ad mech other tahn lack of transports is no objective secured. THAT is the thing that really hurts ad Mech imo.

Regardless, though ad mech are a super fun army to play.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365543.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition?
I'm not arguing convo isn't the best way to run AdMech (GWs bonkers formation rules writing made sure of that) but I am saying theres a lot in that formation that makes people go "feth no I'm not playing that" for good reason and trying to play them outside it feels like playing two armies that want totally different things.

Since the skiitari BFF is pretty obvious and well known I was trying to come up with a good buddy army for cult Mechanicus. Inquisition and Grey Knights were my two ideas.


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Until there's a combined book and maybe an Imperial Armor with the 30k units (IA12: The Guys Who Would Actually Have All The Relics?) CM and Skiitari are going to be a bad combination outside one formation. Which is kinda sad. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365650.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8365662.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition?
the_scotsman wrote:
I didn't say skiitari are bad outside convo I said skiitari and cult Mechanicus are a bad combo outside of it. If the skittles aren't giving you/benefiting from canticles the armies don't really help each other.

I'm not arguing convo isn't the best way to run AdMech (GWs bonkers formation rules writing made sure of that) but I am saying theres a lot in that formation that makes people go "feth no I'm not playing that" for good reason and trying to play them outside it feels like playing two armies that want totally different things.

Since the skiitari BFF is pretty obvious and well known I was trying to come up with a good buddy army for cult Mechanicus. Inquisition and Grey Knights were my two ideas.


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Until there's a combined book and maybe an Imperial Armor with the 30k units (IA12: The Guys Who Would Actually Have All The Relics?) CM and Skiitari are going to be a bad combination outside one formation. Which is kinda sad.


My apologies. When I read your statement it came off as you saying the Skitarii were bad, my mistake. I wouldn't say War Convo is the best way to run ad mech. I will say it is the best way to run them in a fluffy fashion. Which is what I enjoy about it. The free upgrades actually do a good job of balancing out a lot of the downsides. A find a lot of the people against running against the war convo look at the bonuses it gives and they don't take any account for the negatives. I played with a friend's ad mech army when I was still trying to decide if I wanted to play them as an army (currently a work in progress without an end in sight atm) and everyone was reluctant to play against it, but after playing against it said it was strong but not brokenly so. They all would rather play against the war convo than any kind of eldar army.

If you are going for more than just an ally purely for the transports, then yes I would say Inquisition is the best option. They provide what the cult and skitarii need the most. Transports and bodies. The psykers and servo skulls are just sweet bonuses.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366137.page GMT Re:Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? IA2 i believe gives inquisition armies the ability to take valks as fast attack slots. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366177.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366177.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? Inq force org doesn't actually have fast attack slots. Also they only have them as dedicated transports if I recall correctly. Skitarii and to a lesser extent mechanicum are great allies to other armies, ey bring something that is sorely lacking from most imperial forces and this good reliable dedicated anti tank. 140 points get you 5 haywire shots in a pod at bs 5-7. Great counter to Knights, great first blood machine, etc. or grav cannons from the mechanicum while also getting the dominus for his wargear shenanigans]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366205.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? btw which is about as strong of a "tank" as you can get.

Don't take electro priests if you are interested in winning and if you have inquisition don't go further than Coteaz and/or a generic inquisitor for skulls.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366474.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8366474.page GMT Cult Mechanicus: is there best ally actually the Inquisition? IA giving Inquisition access to fliers. The great wolves company is a good way to get a rune priest and 3 transports for the cost of a 20 point tax. ML1 rune priest with no upgrades is 60 points so fairly cheap. Inquisition is still probably better though there are case where SW shine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8368823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675616/8368823.page GMT