http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k, but I have no idea where to start... DV seems a good starting point, but what should I focus on? Models, rules, background, a bit of everything?

I find it challenging to explain factions in a simplistic way... 'cause the imperium are not just "the good guys", chaos aren't just "the bad guys".... The fluff seems just too large to condense it without losing out on something...

I find it complicated too to explain why allying chaos, dark eldar, harlequins and necrons doesn't make too much sense...

So if any of you have any bit of advice I would be gratefull!

Also, i'm not 100% sure this is the correct section for this post... If it isn't, mods, my apologies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372326.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372341.page GMT
Just, for the love of god, don't let her see the price until you've hooked it. Every single time I failed to get someone into the hobby is because they saw the price before the models. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372371.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372371.page GMT
In terms of allying stuff together, that's easier when you have a cohesive idea of the armies behind it. There is a decent section of the rulebook that gives an overview of the various races so you shouldn't have to work too hard at explaining why certain things are what they are. And don't forget, everything in 40k is racist. They don't work together because they're racists and that's an easy enough explaination for it. Humans hate elves that hate Tau that hate robot skeletons that hate all life, and so on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372398.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8372462.page GMT
1. Go to the store and have them buy a box of Space Marines. Or, if you have a bunch of stuff, donate a squad.
2. Tell her you'll get together with her either at your place or the gaming store where she can use your tools and you can help her put stuff together. As you work together, talk about the game world and the rules a little.
3. Once the guys are put together, have a couple small games to go over the basics.

For people who lean more towards the gaming side, they may want to start thinking about what they can add to their force to get a starter army of 500 points. For hobbyists, now would be the time to think about buying some primer and thinking about paint schemes. If she seems to be really getting into it, be generous with your time. If she seems to be lukewarm to the whole deal, don't push it.

Lastly, help her to understand that this will be an investment. Donate what you can to the cause, but the hobby takes time and money and there's no way around these simple facts!

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We've already been to the shop, and she's already built a handfull of guardsmen i had lying around and a termie chaos lord...

I think the next step will be to get DV... She loves the chaos models, and that gives her a small army to start with That way she gets the rulebook and chaos army, and I can either get some DA allies or re-sell them! Getting a game at the shop seems a pretty good idea too.

She is interested in the gaming and modelling aspects of the game, a little less with the painting bit, but I could give a hand with that if necessary. She has seen me build an AM army, sho she knows it requires some time investment and some moneys, but she isn't discouraged by it... Hell, maybe you'll see her soon around in Dakka
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Dark vengeance is a bargain from a price perspective, but the chaos side is definitely not compromised of what are considered good units gamewise. I rarely use anything from it apart from the cultists because I need mandatory troop choices.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8373305.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8373305.page GMT KDK or rely heavily on forge world there is no getting around that CSM is in sorry shape. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8373607.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/675995/8373607.page GMT