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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
everything is on the title: does the changes in the editions, the changes in the meta, made you buy things specifically to adress these shifts ?
Or do you buy following a theme (I bought a lot of leman russes, even if they aren't really good now because I'm making an armored battle group since last year, for example), do you buy just what please you, etc ?

For my Space Marine army, however, the meta influenced me, but I still made personnal choices (I don't want bikes, I think they are ugly), but I don't play tournaments.

Let us know how you make your purchases !

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I know when I'm building an army, I like to at least collect one of every unit available for the sake of collecting, regardless of how good or bad they are. Plus it's fun trying new things out on the table top. I also seem to recall a Lictor-centric army winning a major tournament within the last year or two when the internet had decided Lictor's weren't worth it.

On top of all that, usually if you wait a cycle, chances are that unit that was crummy, will suddenly be the new flavor of the month. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374243.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374243.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? GW raises price on newly buffed models and thus I don't want to spend the money". I frequently buy models for the looks or gimmicks (like a buncha land speeders because I want to try a speeder army for gaks and giggles) unless GW raises their price (Scions were one of them).

Whenever I game I usually game with friends. In the rare instance I face a cheesemonger, I do have a few cheesemonger lists handy but they're not my main army, and still made up of fairly interesting models. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374257.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? It is just that for being competitive, or good at tournament, people need advices etc...
When you don't need any if you play "fluff". This is why we only see this kind of threads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374259.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374259.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? AA. So I picked up an ADL and a talon. Not very fond of either of them, aesthetically (although the talon has grown on me) but they filled a mechanical need in my lists.

But I’ve not picked up any centurions yet, even though they are powerful. Don’t fit well into my personal canon, look kinda ugly, and while they put out the dakka, I can get firepower elsewhere. Eventually I might grab some, but I’m in no rush. I’ve seen some mods that make them look decent, and I recognize that they are competitive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374266.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374266.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374293.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
So in a way, the meta does affect my spending, but not in the way GW wants. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374301.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? CSM deathstars and they seem pretty tame compared to some other things I've read about like Grav Centurions, Skyhammer, Invisible deathstars etc. I feel pretty lucky in that respect!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374312.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
Due to some (most) armies ease at wiping out a unit in a single volley of shooting, I've steered away from expensive units, and build what I call anti-deathstars, disposable HQs with min. points investment, with a big MSU Obj secured troops selection.

So after a particularly crushing defeat, I take a look in the bitz box and convert up whatever point efficient unit I'm missing. Currently I made a stock Big Mek,and a few rokkit buggies for Obj grabbing and trukk escorts service

Still lose most of the games, but it takes people by surprise. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374333.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Also I should mention that whenever the meta shifts, I usually see people selling off armies en-masse to buy the latest hotcake. This is awesome for me because I like collecting old models (especially old metal ones) so not only do they become available with every codex drop, but also at an insane discount.

So in a way, the meta does affect my spending, but not in the way GW wants.

So much this.

Right before the newest Eldar codex dropped, I got a beautifully painted SW Drop Pod Dreadnaught themed army simply because the owner saw the leaks of the new codex rules and immediately decided to sell because his previously cheesed out list couldn't compete with the new cheese. It was pretty mindblowing on my end, but the couple of times a year when the new flavor drops and people start selling their models to make way for the new cheddar is the best time to make great deals.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374335.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? Didn't they paint their models ?
Dodn't they love their toy soldiers ?
It is sad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374366.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?

godardc wrote:
I really don't understand this kind of people, for me, my mini are more than simple chess pawns/pieces/pions.
Didn't they paint their models ?
Dodn't they love their toy soldiers ?
It is sad.

Nope. I talked to one of the commission painters I know and more often than not, they don't even buy their own models. They pay the painter to buy them, assemble, convert and paint them, then when they're bored they sell it off for the next flavour of the month.

One guy apparently agreed to have 3000 dollars worth of forge world painted up, but got bored halfway (like, a mere 2 weeks in) and got half his money back, but let the painter keep all of the models. The painter then sold it off piecemeal and made quite the pretty penny.

EDIT: Some people apparently even won't bother buying the models themselves. To them winning tournaments/humiliating their friends is more important. And they apparently have the cash to do so. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374380.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?

I play this game mainly for fluff, backgound, etc...
I can understand it is not as important for others as it is for me, but this is so...strange ?
Why do not play to warmachine etc... ? I can also understand people who don't love every aspect of the Hobby, of course (like, people who love 40k but hate painting), however, this is just too much (and a lot of money !!!!).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374403.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
Occasionally if the models are gorgeous but have poor rules, I buy them anyway or I use them to kit bash something with rules I like more.

I don't power-game. 40K has very much become a pay-to-win game and I have no interest to waste loads of money just so I can curb-stomp some random people. There's no skill or pride in paying to come first.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374406.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? 40k standards) but hey, it also means I get cheap fun crap so they can spend their money however they want. I once came hilariously close to buying a Warhound titan for 100 bucks, fully painted and assembled. But someone else snagged the deal before I did. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374408.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374411.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?

HoundsofDemos wrote:
For me the number one rule for me taking something is do I find it visually appealing. If it fails that test then It will never be in my army, hence why I will never use cents or thunderwolf cav. I think they look stupid and no amount of good rules will ever get me to buy either.

Use Skullcrushers like i do.

Those models are just screaming to be TWC and look badass doing so. In fact the only reason I even consider TWC is because they're the only models that represent Skullcrushers well. That and AoS is crap. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374414.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
I also tend to not play my Tau as much because the current meta makes them evoke a lot of rage and I would rather play a fun game (for both parties). That heavy sigh I hear when they ask "what army are you playing today" and I say "Tau". Very much some feels bad man.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374422.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374422.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
I'm not really a hobbyist. I hate building and painting, and pay to have it done for me. I've never sold anything of mine 40k wise, though I've been tempted.

I also play warmachine]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374423.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374459.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374459.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? So when you can combine both: WH40k it was a match made in heaven at around 2nd edition (RT'ish, 2nd just came out).
So, meta has some impact but I have seen rules come and go, so buying good looking models eventually pays off as useful ones.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374461.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374466.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
Same goes for my other lists though. Everything is about 30% Meta choices and the rest for other reasons. Even as I start in Infinity I'm doing that. Taking some more meh looking models for a powerful combo instead of JUST the characters I like or that look the best. I do like to win as much as the next guy after all so that means I have to have an equally competent army list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374566.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
Just makes sense.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374571.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? I stopped buying model's to play this with and have inadvertently became a modeler/painter which GW believe's is there main customer. So swings and roundabout's in a way for them i suppose.
However, I haven't bought anything in a year and that would suggest to me that GW better get there act in gear as that was the first xmas in 20 year's I didn't get any 40k/GW with my monies and i know I wasn't alone in that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374624.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374624.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
I want units that I can play and have fun with. It is no fun if I lose every game, so I don't buy really bad units. It is no fun if I win every game, so I don't buy broken units.

I am a bit of a collector though, so once I've populated my collection with "fun" units, I start filling in the missing pieces. For Instance, for my Orks, I've filled in my basic gaps, and then purchased the better units (Warbikers, Stompas). I still haven't filled in the less good units, though I'm starting. (30 Stormboyz unpainted, 5 Flash gitz unbuilt, 0 Gorkanauts).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374639.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374639.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374653.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374653.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
I often buy what I think would be cool, but sometimes I will buy units that primarily are there to shore up a very weak point in my army - against LOCAL players I play often.

For example, all I had until recently to combat flyers was some Devastators with Flakk Missiles, so I got a Stormtalon. Before that, I was having trouble with Bikes, so I started experimenting with ways around it - Callidus Assassin, Thunderfire Cannon, and I might even try out a Redeemer soon.

I don't let the global/national metagame influence me, anyways, especially as I don't have the cash to fly to any tournaments. And I don't like to go for power builds.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374668.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374668.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
So I've tried to get back to just using what I like and making it work. But that's getting harder and harder as "standard builds" worm their way in through the internet]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374690.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374690.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? DE since Necrons was out with new fluff. I was going to go DE but had a bad feeling and the owner said he used to main DE and there was only one viable competitive way to play them. Then their new codex came out and gutted what was there.

I don't regret my choice. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374705.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8374707.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
When my local meta changed from lots of infantry to lots MC/deathstars to a lot of infantry, I found myself lacking a way to deal with them. As a result I bought some units I had wanted to buy in the past, but didn't due to the knowledge that I probably would not use them until people started using different armies. Hence I first focussed on the units I wanted that I'd also use in the game.

the_Armyman wrote:
The meta, and those worried about it, makes me chuckle.

Most people hardly worry about it, but if you're a player and not a collector you can hardly claim not being influenced by it. The notion that someone (if that someone is a player) thinks he is not influenced by the meta is what makes me chuckle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375208.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375233.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375242.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ?
I own a heldrake for my Thousand Sons, but it's been converted to be a mechanical dragon. I run skyhammer for my vanilla Marines, but mainly because I wanted useful ASM since I think they look rad, yet I refuse to use bikes because they look ridiculous (though ork bikes and jetbikes both get a pass). I also run 3 burning chariots in my tzeentch daemons because I'm not a fan of the Soul grinder model and haven't figured out how to convert one to my liking while the chariot is passable AV and looks cool as hell.

Even my competitive armies have a theme, and no matter how strong something is, if it doesn't fit the theme, it doesn't get included. On the flip side, other than my Thousand Sons who are my favourite, I try not to buy useless junk either since the army still needs to be able to put up a fight (which explains why I have not bought any CSM models for ages).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375303.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375303.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? IG so I don't have to worry about good units.... In general, I only buy my infantry at GW since I need conversions. All the rest is either second-hand or other companies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375307.page GMT Re:Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? BA. Fix their rules or no new purchases for me (outside that cool new Chaplain).

My Codex Space Marines purchased have remained relatively constant, but that is largely due to the fact I am aiming to complete a Battle Company. My Crimson Fists are not overly competitive anyway, but they get the job done. I figured out an exploit that lets them spam Strength D Large Blasts, so I am going to see if that gets me anywhere if I ever play competitively.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8375341.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? ML melta Guns and flamers). Due to my whole idea of using misdirection style tactics while my initial cad will be mechanised il be bringing both a 10th company task force and a first company one at 2-2.5k. Best part about this is I can bring a lobby without using the conclave which is just plain ol broken]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8378931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8378931.page GMT Does the meta changes impact your purchases ? I also buy models under the rule of cool (hence my WK and IKs even if theyre considered OP at the moment).
What I usually finds happens is I can build my themed army and then put together about a 50-75%% competitive army using the models I got or some of my ancient 2-3rd ed stuff.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8378982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/676096/8378982.page GMT