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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi, <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> I will soon have a 900 pts game against a friend's all new tyranids. It is the first time he plays with his tyranids.<br /> I have little experience with such a small amount of points, and I'm wondering if his tyranids could stand against my vehicles heavy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> army.<br /> So here is his list, and then my  two possible lists:<br /> <br /> TYRANIDS  (pretty much this, it is supposed exactly 900) :<br /> <br /> -1 Hive tyrant ( wings,  two twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms)      240<br /> -1 venomthrope                                                                                                 45<br /> -1 zoanthrope                                                                                                    50<br /> -1 zoanthrope                                                                                                    50<br /> -30 termagants                                                                                                120<br /> -30 hormagaunts                                                                                             150<br /> -10 gargoyles                                                                                                     60<br /> - 1 carnifex ( two twin-linked devourer with brainleech worms)                      150<br /> <br /> TOTAL:                                                                                                            865<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> My list, firstly the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> one:<br /> <br /> Chapter tactics: Ultramarines.<br /> Chaplain (with jump pack)                                                                                                105<br /> 5 Vanguard veterans (4 power mauls, sergeant has two lightnings claws)                     140<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> marines (drop pod with DML, sergeant with combi flamer, 1 flamer, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)          215<br /> 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> marines (rhino, sergeant with combi plasma, 1 plasma, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)                            205<br /> 1 thunderfire cannon<br /> 1 vindicator<br /> <br /> TOTAL:                                                                                                                             900<br /> <br /> <br /> Or this one, from Imperial Armour Volume One Second Edition:<br /> <br /> Company command tank (vanquisher, co-axial heavy stubber, beast-hunter shells)     205<br /> 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank                                                                                               150<br /> 1 Leman Russ Battle Tank                                                                                               150<br /> 10 veterans (chimera, 2 melta, demolition charge)                                                         205<br /> 1 cyclops demolition team                                                                                               115<br /> 1 hydra                                                                                                                               75<br /> <br /> TOTAL:                                                                                                                             900<br /> <br /> (company command tank is basically a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 4 vanquisher wich can shoot at very long range a melta Strenght and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>  with instant death 3" template, and give orders like targeted ennemy unit reroll successful cover save, cyclop demolition team is, loosely, 2 infantry models which can, in assault phase, explode and put on the mini a basilisk template at i10, useful, I think, to protect me from tyranid assaults, and hydra still has "ignore jink" in this list).<br /> <br /> This is why I came to you: I'm afraid my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> list has too many things to counter him (instant death, templates, etc...).  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> What do you think ?<br /> <br /> <br /> <b> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>;DR: wich Imperium list is the more balanced against the tyranid one ? </b><br /> <br /> Thanks !   <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> is allowed, but if it is your friends first game I would give a friendly recommendation to not use an army list / units from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>.<br /> <br /> The nid list could possibly glance the AV12 armor, but outside of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> melee or lucky zoanthrope shots (ha!) most of your stuff can ignore most of his stuff.<br /> <br /> Do the hormagaunts have adrenal glands(furious charge?)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I must precise: his first game <b>with his tyranids</b>, he has played <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> for years^^<br /> Yep, this is what I was afraid of.<br /> Playing with objectives might help, however.<br /> I don't know exactly his list, it is possible, because he still has points left.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:35:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ godardc]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He has 35pts left over which <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>iirc</span> is enough to give 30 hormagaunts adrenal glands.<br /> <br /> If its not his first game, your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> list should be legit ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ blaktoof]]></author>
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