<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? DEs because the Skaven Stormfiends look like the perfect basis for Talos en-masse. While talos are usually slow, given that they have just so many wounds and their Scout Move, they might actually be a creditable threat.

The other one is the Scalpel Squadron. 2 Wrack units in 2 Venoms. This seem just a wee too easy since usually there'd be some kind of tax. Having first turn deepstrike also sounds too good. Is there any reason people aren't spamming these?

Have any of you guys had experiences with these, and how do they hold up?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415161.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415161.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron?
That said, where it can utterly rock face is against an opponent with a 3-4 wound MC kicking around, given all that poison shooting and the Ossefactors/Hexrifles.

The Corpsethief Claw is great in theory. I never see it simply because it's kind of expensive cashwise and not small pointswise either, but I think it has serious potential.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415209.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415231.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415231.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? VP per unit kill, it's about as close as you can get to a hard counter for MSU marines. It's also a board control nightmare for your opponent. It's a rock-hard unit that'll mash up just about anything it gets close to.

That's where the catch is. Despite the potentially huge unit footprint and the ability to Scout, Taloses are freaking slow. Unless the rest of your army can herd your opponent towards your Corpsethief, chances are they're just going to kite you and pick off the more valuable portions of your force. The Corpsethief itself, while certainly no slouch, is pretty benign in terms of offensive output for the points. It focuses more on being damn near indestructible to make itself worthwhile, so simply avoiding it isn't going to cause your opponent much angst.

Overall, I like the Corpsethief a lot, but you're going to have to be pretty slick to get it to work to its maximum efficacy. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415273.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415283.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415283.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? MC with FNP is a T7 MC with a 4+ FNP.

TL-Haywire can be of great use to open transports so you can get at their gooey centre and ichor injectors are win against other MC's and GC's or any multi wound infantry. It's not always wise to take both, but they do come in handy. Even naked that Talosi are a huge threat.

Scalpel squad to me is something you take if yuo want to run a reserve heavy army, or at least, if you wan to have the option to reserve everything, since it allows you to go 2nd and null deploy. The extra points on 1st blood is kinda like the blind on warp talons, it's there, but it doesn't mean you should use it. Spamming boats? SS makes for a nice addition IMHO since it meshes well with the army and also gives options, and that flexibility is nice to have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415297.page GMT Re:Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415666.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? DE instead of just Eldar with a Corpse Theif Claw allied?"

The formation is solid and can offer a lot of power, though as others have said it's not the fastest moving. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415672.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8415992.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron?
 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I guess they suffer from the same issue as the Helbrute Murderpack; a huge lump of slow-moving big things that can only assault one enemy at a time.


Why can they only assault one enemy at a time?


OP: The Scalpel Squadron can be fun, but it's chance to get extra VP is a gamble. I think the best reason to take it is to get access to total null deployment.

The CTC has drawbacks (slow movement, primarily) but the huge footprint can compensate for that, as can Scout. I'm a fan of running it next to a Warlord-bearing Dark Artisan formation for the rerolls to FNP 1s and the +1 to FNP. Since I run Freakshows, I'm also a huge fan of running a pod of Eldar Bikes with a Farseer nestled among them for Shrouding or Invisibility.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416013.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron?
 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I guess they suffer from the same issue as the Helbrute Murderpack; a huge lump of slow-moving big things that can only assault one enemy at a time.

Kind of, not really.

The thing is, the Hellbrute formation only gives you special rules for the formation to make the Hellbrutes better. The Corpse Thief Claw on the other hand has a rule that makes it better for the army as a whole and allows you to potentially do something that breaks the rules of the game, and thus gain a much greater advantage.

In other words, it's nice to buff a unit of stuff, but it's even better to just gain something that impacts the game as a whole. As such, even if the Corpse Thief Claw only kills one unit, and gains one victory point, it can potentially win the game for you if all other victory conditions are equal, the Hellbrute formation can never do this as it's only ever as good as the models themselves preform. So yea, there's quite a bit of difference between the two.

Edit: Listening to the latest Signals From the Frontline: "You start a Dark Eldar list, and you go 'well I can take a unit of Eldar, and another unit...' and before you know it you're playing Eldar with a Corpse Thief Claw..." ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416048.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? VP bonus into account.

Claw is great. Can be used as a distraction Carnifex in larger games or a pillar to build around in smaller games. Don't underestimate the free VP]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416278.page GMT Thoughts on Corpsethief Claw and Scalpel Squadron? FnP, they are a bit durable as well.

I think cost for the unit is why you don't see them much as they really have great utility.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/678196/8416310.page GMT