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Anyway, I'm planning on starting a Space Marine army, though my main concern is the amount of Space marine players already out there (Which I've heard is a large amount). I want to play a very unique army (Or play style) and I think Space Marines would be a good idea. I want a small, elite force, everybody supports each other and specializes in very particular tasks. Any help would be greatly appreciated ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453657.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? imo. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453658.page GMT Re:Beginner army? Space Marines? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453794.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines?
That's why every boxed game has had space marines in it. That and being the iconic 40k army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453812.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? teach you the game better, because you can't be lazy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453845.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? SM models pretty cheap and they are easy to paint.

I would still recommend to take army you want to play and paint. Maybe Dark Eldar is hard to learn and with some armies is hard to win (Like CSM).

All Space Marines are elite armies, Grey Knight more than others.Eldars are very tough army and have very specialized units. Which faction interest you most?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8453852.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? So, that makes it easy to get an army built up from spares people have, and cast-offs to tinker with.
Also, people to give advise (often out of date, though).

On the table, Marines have a few special rules, and ATSKNF can get forgotten or mis-read, but they are a fairly straightforward, resilient, army to begin with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454049.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines?
From you're description i think Dark Angels might be the closest match.

However if you really want an army where everything has a unique role Space Marines in general may not be for you because generally other than whether they're on a bike or have a fancy gun they're all pretty much the same, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just may not be what you're looking for.

Generally each chapter is individual and the marines within it are all similar.

Can you provide any more information on what kind of theme or fighting style you might be looking for in a marine army?
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Then read up on the chapters and see what takes your fancy (or invent your own).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454127.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454127.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines?
Whether you find a unique play style or not is going to depend on your local meta, who plays what and how in your area, but from what you've said you'll have an easier time with Eldar creating a list of specialised units that support each other with their Aspect Warriors.

As long as you don't bring loads of jet bikes with Scatter Lasers or Wraithknights nobody will hate for playing Eldar either.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454143.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454143.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? 40k.

One thing about marines, is that there are a lot of ways to play them. Some are more competitive, yes, but generally on the friendly local level, there is a lot of flex. And chapter tactics help make even the same units play a bit different.

If you want to play marines and be unique, you might want to look into some of the more obscure chapters. You can go from “yet another marine player” to “that Mantis Warrior guy” (or other rarely seen force). FW has some free ones in their downloads section Full disclosure: some people have issues with FW, but you can always play them with rules straight out of the codex if you run into problems. It just a paintjob most of the time.

Do take the time and find the army that you want to play. Don’t worry so much if there is already someone playing it. You are going to be spending far to much time and money on this game to choose something you are “meh” on. Find that thing that lights your fire, and ride it to victory!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454161.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454161.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8454756.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? ATSKNF to prevent morale from breaking you, your range of guns can handle most things out there, your transports are cheap, and your tanks have very simple rules) and are not overly-costly for what they do, so even if you roll badly things won't go south for you fast.

The problem most people have with Space Marines is that they don't really excel at anything either, barring the odd fringe case in matchups. The closest to "broken" they have is Grav Weapons and that's because it counters what's popular in the meta right now, which are high-toughness, high armored targets (if Ork boyz suddenly became the next broken units in the game, Grav Weapons would be worthless).

If you want a unique army though, Space Marines are a mixed bag; they have enough rules that you can technically make something unique, but don't expect it to be totally unique either. Most people WILL have seen your idea in one form or another if you go with space marines (whereas a lot of people might know about an Eldar Aspect Host army, few have probably seen one, while everyone probably, at one point, owned a space marine armored division).Like others have said, if you want a truely elite force, go with Grey Knights. I would also recommend Tau Battlesuits as well, as they're a fairly elite force but also very competitive right now.




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 Wyzilla wrote:
I'd say Necrons are more the starter army. They're terribly easy to paint (spray paint silver and paint some green detailing), terribly easy to play (get X formation and point at Y enemy), and will certainly boost your morale with crushing enemies. The only difference is that playing space marines might teach you the game better, because you can't be lazy.


I would agree. I went with Necrons as my first army. I went more complex than just using silver spray paint, but the metallic colors just seem to be easier to use in general. It's easy to paint a nice looking army.

Also rule wise they are easy to learn. Most of your units will be geared exactly the same which is easier to play than a unit with multiple weapon types. Also their extreme resilience makes then more forgiving to play.

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Everyone seems to think marines are the specialist army but 9 times out of 10 they're just spamming melta guns and grav, and with the low armor of rhinos and suicideyness of drop pods they're more like a firecracker goon squad.

Eldar aspect warriors all use highly specialized weapons (you get a unit of all melta guns, or a unit of all anti infantry guns, or a unit of all rocket launchers, or a pure melee squad), they're elite, and they all need to be used against the correct targets to perform well.

Eldar get a lot of hate because their book is solid and contains one particularly overpowered build (wraithknights and Svatterbikes) but the aspects are both fun and tactical to play. They're all pretty solid (just avoid Shining Spears and don't take too too many Warp Spiders or your opponent will hate you)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455000.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455000.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines?
the_scotsman wrote:
I actually recommend Eldar Aspect warriors for that rather than marines.

Everyone seems to think marines are the specialist army but 9 times out of 10 they're just spamming melta guns and grav, and with the low armor of rhinos and suicideyness of drop pods they're more like a firecracker goon squad.

Eldar aspect warriors all use highly specialized weapons (you get a unit of all melta guns, or a unit of all anti infantry guns, or a unit of all rocket launchers, or a pure melee squad), they're elite, and they all need to be used against the correct targets to perform well.

Eldar get a lot of hate because their book is solid and contains one particularly overpowered build (wraithknights and Svatterbikes) but the aspects are both fun and tactical to play. They're all pretty solid (just avoid Shining Spears and don't take too too many Warp Spiders or your opponent will hate you)


I think the OP would also rather not mortgage his house buying the incredibly small, expensive Aspect Warrior models.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455065.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455065.page GMT Beginner army? Space Marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455676.page GMT Re:Beginner army? Space Marines? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455739.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/679997/8455739.page GMT