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				<description><![CDATA[ Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation <br /> <br /> Tech-Priest Dominus <br /> Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land <br /> Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull <br /> <br /> (3) Kataphron Destroyers <br /> Heavy Grav-Cannons, Flamers <br /> <br /> (3) Kataphron Destroyers <br /> Heavy Grav-Cannons, Flamers <br /> <br /> [435] <br /> <br /> Skitarii Battle Maniple <br /> <br /> (10) Vanguard <br /> Omnispex, 3x Plasma Calivers, Arc Maul, Phosphoenix, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons <br />  <br /> <br /> (10) Rangers <br /> 3x Arc Rifles, Arc Maul, Arc Pistol, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Skull of Elder Nikola, Omnispex <br /> <br /> (5) Ruststalkers <br /> Prehensile Dataspike, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, Omniscient Mask <br /> <br /> (8) Infiltrators <br /> Pater Radium, Blasters/Goads, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, Infoslave skull <br /> <br /> (3) Sydonian Dragoons<br /> Serpentas<br /> <br /> (2) Dunecrawlers <br /> Icarus Arrays (or Neutron), Cognis Heavy Stubber, Cognis Manipulator, Mindscanner Probe <br /> <br /> [940] <br /> <br /> Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment <br /> <br /> Knight Crusader <br /> Stormspear (or Icarus, depending on how my meta is), Battle Cannon, Meltagun<br /> <br /> [1845]<br /> <br /> Looking to tool this out for local tourneys, on the off-chance I choose to go (we have a lot and I am not hugely competitive, but I like the social aspect). <br /> <br /> How does this list look? Will it work? What tweaks do you suggest?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Any suggestions for this list? I know it isn't exactly innovative, but i want to make sure it is:<br /> <br /> 1) Legal<br /> 2) Fluffy<br /> 3) Competitive / Viable<br /> <br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ War convocation is always competitive and viable.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ x2 crusader knight + min maxed conv is the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I tend to agree with -v1-mega, especially considering the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> changes.<br /> <br /> That being said, I don't have an example of that list. I would like it if someone had one, though. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 May 2016 14:31:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cephalobeard]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/64b5a9a425b633b3536379dff6f84617.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8676655.page"><b>-v10mega wrote:</b></a><br/>x2 crusader knight + min maxed conv is the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you fit that into 1850?<br /> <br /> I am with Cephalobeard - I need to see it!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 25 May 2016 14:47:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ em_en_oh_pee]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0220b39fc551015f924fdf49091d40c6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8676690.page"><b>em_en_oh_pee wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/64b5a9a425b633b3536379dff6f84617.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8676655.page"><b>-v10mega wrote:</b></a><br/>x2 crusader knight + min maxed conv is the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you fit that into 1850?<br /> <br /> I am with Cephalobeard - I need to see it!<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> pretty sure it's not possible.  All minimum sized units and going Breachers instead of Destroyers (generally a bad call) for the point savings my count still puts you at 1855 with 2 Crusaders.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8677075.page"><b>Fhionnuisce wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/0220b39fc551015f924fdf49091d40c6.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8676690.page"><b>em_en_oh_pee wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/64b5a9a425b633b3536379dff6f84617.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8676655.page"><b>-v10mega wrote:</b></a><br/>x2 crusader knight + min maxed conv is the best <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you fit that into 1850?<br /> <br /> I am with Cephalobeard - I need to see it!<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> pretty sure it's not possible.  All minimum sized units and going Breachers instead of Destroyers (generally a bad call) for the point savings my count still puts you at 1855 with 2 Crusaders.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Sounds like a nice idea for 2k though! Then its just a matter of freeing up another 200pt or so, which shouldn't be too hard.<br /> <br /> Given that, anything with my current list that needs tweaking? I think with the right Canticles use/timing and deployment, it should be pretty solid. I worry about Tau and Eldar, of course. Any tips for facing the tougher builds out there?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Should check out the Ad Mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, but I am pretty sure they have clarified that it is only 1 dunecrawler in the convo]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/dc4a4d9c5ac61e879d942ede9493c98f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8677149.page"><b>gameandwatch wrote:</b></a><br/>Should check out the Ad Mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, but I am pretty sure they have clarified that it is only 1 dunecrawler in the convo</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Dunecrawlers can be taken in units up to 3<br /> <br /> And the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> isnt final yet]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/dc4a4d9c5ac61e879d942ede9493c98f.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8677149.page"><b>gameandwatch wrote:</b></a><br/>Should check out the Ad Mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, but I am pretty sure they have clarified that it is only 1 dunecrawler in the convo</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That is for the Dominus Maniple Formation, which says "1 Onager Dunecrawler", whereas the Skitarii Battle Maniple, if I recall right, says "1 unit of Onager Dunecrawlers". The former is a single, the latter 1-3 as a unit.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ minimum of everything should get you 2 crusaders if not then take one crusader and one warden ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/64b5a9a425b633b3536379dff6f84617.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/680578/8679992.page"><b>-v10mega wrote:</b></a><br/>minimum of everything should get you 2 crusaders if not then take one crusader and one warden </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well, you were right - two Knights is doable. One has to be the Warden though. Looks like this, basically:<br /> <br /> Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation <br /> <br /> Tech-Priest Dominus <br /> Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land <br /> Digital Weapons, Infoslave Skull <br /> <br /> (3) Kataphron Destroyers <br /> Heavy Grav-Cannons, Flamers <br /> <br /> (3) Kataphron Destroyers <br /> Heavy Grav-Cannons, Flamers <br /> <br /> Skitarii Battle Maniple <br /> <br /> (5) Vanguard <br /> Omnispex, 2x Plasma Calivers, Arc Maul, Phosphoenix, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons <br /> <br /> (6) Rangers <br /> 2x Arquebus, Arc Maul, Arc Pistol, Conversion Field, Digital Weapons, Skull of Elder Nikola, Omnispex<br /> <br /> (5) Ruststalkers <br /> Prehensile Dataspike, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, Omniscient Mask<br /> <br /> (5) Infiltrators <br /> Pater Radium, Blasters/Goads, Digital Weapons, Conversion Field, Infoslave skull <br /> <br /> Sydonian Dragoon<br /> Serpenta<br /> <br /> Dunecrawler<br /> Icarus Arrays, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Cognis Manipulator, Mindscanner Probe <br /> <br /> Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment <br /> <br /> Knight Crusader <br /> Stormspear (or Icarus, depending on how my meta is), Battle Cannon, Meltagun<br /> <br /> Knight Warden<br /> Stormspear (or Icarus)<br /> <br /> [1846]<br /> <br /> Definitely going to build both lists, since I own plenty of Knights. Thoughts on this one? And compared to the other?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I personally think the first list would be better. While Knights are all big and scary, I'd rather a well rounded larger force than a small mechanicum force with 2 knights being the focal point. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I spoke with a gentleman who won a tournament recently, he offered me his double knight list he runs:<br /> <br /> Tech priest with skull<br /> 2x 3 destroyers with grav <br /> <br /> 5x Rangers with arc<br /> 5x vanguard with arc<br /> 5x infiltrators with tasers and elder skull<br /> 5x rust with claws and the mask<br /> Iron strider with las <br /> Dune with icuris array<br /> <br /> Warden with iron strom missiles<br /> Warden with iron storm missiles <br /> <br /> Inquisitor with 3x skulls and the relic that let him scout<br /> <br /> I think this is a pretty great start, and the Warden offers a large amount of infantry destroying power.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That is pretty nifty and I do have a Solomon Lok model just waiting to be painted, so.... maybe one day I will do that list, just to see how it rolls.<br /> <br /> Thanks for sharing!<br /> <br /> Any reason, you think, that he went Strider over Dragoon?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He didn't offer it, but I imagine 48" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> S9 AP1 Melta, when he's rocking two infantry based knights, is helpful against vehicles etc. ]]></description>
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