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Here's what I've come up with so far:

Tech Priest Dominus - eradication ray, phosphor serpenta, digital weapons, infoslave skull, conversion field, Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land

Kataphron Breachers - heavy arc rifles, hydraulic claws

Kataphron Destroyers - heavy grav-cannons, cognis flamers

Kastellan Robot Maniple - twin-linked heavy phosphor blasters, heavy phosphor blasters, Cybernetica Datasmith w/ digital weapons, infoslave skull, conversion field, Raiment of the Techno-Martyr

Skitarii Vanguard x 10 - omnispex, plasma caliver x 3, Alpha w/ phosphor blast pistol, power sword, conversion field, digital weapons, Pater Radium

Skitarii Rangers x 10 - omnispex, plasma caliver x 3, Alpha w/ phosphor blast pistol, power sword, conversion field, digital weapons, Arkhan’s Divinator

Sicarian Ruststalkers x 5 - Princeps w/ prehensile dataspike, conversion field, digital weapons, the Omniscient Mask

Sicarian Infiltrators x 5 - flechette blasters, taser goads, Princeps w/ infoslave skull, conversion field, digital weapons Phase Taser

Ironstrider Ballistarii - twin-linked cognis lascannonu

Onager Dunecrawler - Icarus array, cognis heavy stubber, mindscanner probe, cognis manipulator

Knight Crusader - melta gun, stormspear rocket pod


There's a few wargear choices here I'm not certain about - the idea is for the Dominus to go with Breachers/Destroyers, but is there a better way to equip him which would complement the Rangers instead? Which units would benefit most from the Phosphoenix and the Pater Radium? Am I right to think it isn't worth replacing the Ruststalkers' mindscrambler grenades for extra transonic blades?

As far as unit composition goes, is 10 models too many Vanguard and is 5 models too few Ruststalkers and Infiltrators?

Can this list deal with multiple MC's, lots of infantry and a SHV like a Lord of Skulls with reasonable effectiveness?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8482717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8482717.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help!
I'd take all skitarii troops in 5s rather than 10s. They die very easily...better to split targets.

I'm actually going to run my tech priest with the knight so he can repair him each turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484602.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help!
raekone wrote:
I'm playing with the ideas myself.

I'd take all skitarii troops in 5s rather than 10s. They die very easily...better to split targets.

I'm actually going to run my tech priest with the knight so he can repair him each turn.


You can only take one unit of each in the war convocation, so you want units of ten.

Might be worth doing one of the units of kastellans with plasma to benefit from the no gets hot, and to help with horde armies. Breachers with arch blasters are also very much worth taking for some guaranteed anti armour.

Taking the flamer options where possible, mixed with a promethium pipe line can also be fun .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484637.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help! Having the Dominus repairing the Knight is a nice idea, perhaps equipped with a Stasis Field and the Uncreator Gauntlet?

My main army doesn't have anywhere near this amount of options so I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed


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 JamesY wrote:

Might be worth doing one of the units of kastellans with plasma to benefit from the no gets hot, and to help with horde armies. Breachers with arch blasters are also very much worth taking for some guaranteed anti armour.

Taking the flamer options where possible, mixed with a promethium pipe line can also be fun .


Having flamers on the Destroyers would certainly help to deal with hordes, something the list is probably lacking. I've never used grav weapons before but they seem almost too good to pass up, having something to deal with MCs is important, but as long as they aren't flying the plasma culverins also fit that bill I suppose. I may swap out one unit for a squad of Breachers though, thanks for pointing out the heavy arc rifle, I must have somehow missed it - that's precisely the extra anti-vehicle solution I need!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8484645.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help!
Your rust stalkers or infiltrator princeps, one of the should have the relic that gives zealot.

I like the idea of cognis weapons on the robots but mask of the alpha dominus could just save the day if you need to change protocols in a pinch.

Im torn between the Ironstrider and the dragoon myself. the dragoon has that sweet 2 shot sniper that is 2 ap2 shots on a 6 to wound. and has built in cover, more attacks and a better WS incase you need a cheap tarpit for some IG or cultists or something.

And I believe the general belief is the Dominus cannot join the robots because they are MCs even with the datasmith...If I am wrong please let me know.
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 Tenzilla wrote:
You are immune to gets hot, and plasma calivers are free, I would drop the arc rifles off the vanguard and use plasma. If you really want to use arc rifles put them in the ranger unit, the 18 range on the plasma is the same range of radium carbines on the vanguards. But I would still go with all plasma.

Your rust stalkers or infiltrator princeps, one of the should have the relic that gives zealot.

I like the idea of cognis weapons on the robots but mask of the alpha dominus could just save the day if you need to change protocols in a pinch.

Im torn between the Ironstrider and the dragoon myself. the dragoon has that sweet 2 shot sniper that is 2 ap2 shots on a 6 to wound. and has built in cover, more attacks and a better WS incase you need a cheap tarpit for some IG or cultists or something.

And I believe the general belief is the Dominus cannot join the robots because they are MCs even with the datasmith...If I am wrong please let me know.


I've now given calivers to the Vanguard, they had arc rifles to help the list with anti-vehicle but the Breachers will take that role now. Planning on attaching the Dominus to the Kastelan Robot Maniple was a mistake on my part, he can however achieve the same thing with either Breachers or Destroyers instead - I suppose I could improvise which unit he goes in depending on what I'm facing.
BS2 snapshots for Kastelan's seemed like a nice gimmick for shooting at FMC's or low AV flyers that get too close for their own good, though I will certainly experiment with the Mask of the Alpha Dominus for emergency flexibility.

I had the Ironstrider on a whim rather than for any particular reason, the Dragoon also looks very useful with a jezzail. I would love to include both in the list, but alas!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8485476.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8485476.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help!
Dominus (rainment and attached to grav for snaps at bs 2)

3 destroyers with plasma
3 destroyers with grav

10 vanguard with 3 calivers
10 rangers with 3 arc

5 infiltartors
5 ruststalkers

2 Dunecrawlers with neutron lasers

1 Ballistarii with Lascannon

Imperial Knight Crusader with AA gun, battle cannon, melta gun.

1 Void Shield

1 Celuxes assassin
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MRGRIMREAP wrote:
I have play tested the following 1850 list with very positive results:

Dominus (rainment and attached to grav for snaps at bs 2)

3 destroyers with plasma
3 destroyers with grav

10 vanguard with 3 calivers
10 rangers with 3 arc

5 infiltartors
5 ruststalkers

2 Dunecrawlers with neutron lasers

1 Ballistarii with Lascannon

Imperial Knight Crusader with AA gun, battle cannon, melta gun.

1 Void Shield

1 Celuxes assassin


Im assuming all your alphas are decked out with all the extra wargear and relics as well?
I enjoy the neutron lasers...who wouldn't? The only issue with that list is the culexus...he has no transport...and if you arent facing a psycic deathstar he is kind of waste of points.
I like the crusader for the knight as well, although Im tempted to go for a paladin/errant for the scary D weapon for more board control. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8485929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8485929.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help! bs. With the games I have played with this army he has not yet been wasted points and ate Ezikiel, a Landspeeder and 3 Black Knights one game, Deathbringer in another, and 2 Librarians on bikes in another. As for the Crusader, board control is nice... or just blast everything to bitz! Grav Destoryers will make short work of any contesting Wraith knights or Riptides. And Neutron Lasers are amazing when you factor in this formations ability to have twin linked bs 7 Dunecrawlers for 2 game turns (if you are crazy enough to do this) essentially placing two (or three) str 10 ap 1 blasts wherever you want!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8486909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8486909.page GMT [circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8488736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8488736.page GMT Re:[circa 1850] - Adeptus Mechanicus - War Convocation - new to AdMech, please help!
Just my two cents. Looks like a really solid core.

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MRGRIMREAP wrote:
You are still rolling to determine glance or pen with haywire and grav. So yes you would choose to re-roll all failed.


This is incorrect, and has been ruled on in most tournaments. Grav does NOT roll to pen against vehicles, the graviton rule explicitly states that "instead of rolling for armor penetration...." It is unfortunate, as I thought it worked for it when I ran an army with 4 units of grav destroyers, but alas, no dice. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8516608.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681650/8516608.page GMT