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Gladius Strike Force:
-2 Battle Demi Companies
-1 1st Company Task Force

Total: 1650

Captain
-Jump Pack
-Combi-Plasma
--------------------------115
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Assault Marines
-2 Flamers
-Drop Pod
--------------------------80
5 Devastator Marines
-2 Grav Cannon/Amp
-Rhino
--------------------------140
Chaplain
-Jump Pack
--------------------------105
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Tac Marines
-Plasma Gun
-Razorback with TL LC
--------------------------105
5 Assault Marines
-2 Flamers
-Drop Pod
--------------------------80
5 Devastator Marines
-2 Grav Cannon/Amp
-Rhino
--------------------------140
5 Vanguard Veterans
-Jump Packs
-2 Power Weapons
--------------------------120
5 Vanguard Veterans
-Jump Packs
-2 Power Weapons
--------------------------120
5 Vanguard Veterans
-Jump Packs
-2 Power Weapons
--------------------------120



The idea is that the Captain and Chaplain roll with the Vanguard Vets. 35 attacks if all can get in. If enemy unit is within 12" of the 3 Vet squads, they subtract 2 from leadership, so more sweeping advances hopefully. These guys are the shock unit that move around quick and take out problem enemy units.

The Tac squads roll up in Razorbacks to objectives and cover to basically camp objectives for obsec. TL LC on Razorbacks can deal with armor, while Plasma Guns can deal with MEQ.

Assault Squads are for problem situations where I need to get some obsec units on an objective quickly. Drop pod in and clear out with Flamers where the rest of the army can't get to. Somewhat suicidal unit though.

Devastator Squads take Rhinos to take advantage of the 2 firing points. Fire Grav Cannons from inside Rhino and hop on objectives if necessary.

All in all, there should be 10 obsec squads each with an obsec transport (let me know if I got this rule wrong). Should be enough guns to deal with MEQ, TEQ, and AV quite decently. One questions I have is: does the obsec on the Captain and Chaplain transfer to the unit of Vanguard? Or if they join the Vanguard Vets, will they lose their obsec? How does this work?

Thanks for taking a look. Any and all feedback is appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681928/8488595.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681928/8488595.page GMT [1650] - Space Marines - Competitive Ultramarines
However I get the feeling you have the enemy sitting quietly in your mind when you roleplay the list.

What for example is the plan for horde armies? 4 flamers and then you are relying on your bolters.

Not trying to be negative, but to be competitive you don't really want to get tabled by Armies 1-2 and then be able to blitz 3-8 if you know what I mean.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681928/8490509.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/681928/8490509.page GMT