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				<description><![CDATA[ Copied and pasted my idea from another thread;<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Deadshot wrote:</cite>I remember years ago that armies had "strategy" points or something like that, that helped determine who went first I think. Something similar could be brought in here. Every <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> unit should be given a strategy rating, which can be used on things in game. For example, each Warlord Trait can have a number beside it, which is how many strategy points it costs, so characters can expend points to buy them straight up. Other options could be modifying your roll-offs for deployment/reserves/first turn/steal the initiative.<br /> <br /> Example<br /> <br /> Space Marine Captain has 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span>. He expends one of them for the "Champion of Humanity" Space Marine Warlord Trait. during the set-up, he expends another when he rolls off to see who has first turn, giving him +1 to his roll, turning his 3 into a 4. During turn 2 he then expends his last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> to add +1 to all his reserve rolls during this turn.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Torus wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/232d798a364923199dc92df23ca2a444.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682033/8496000.page"><b>Deadshot wrote:</b></a><br/>I remember years ago that armies had "strategy" points or something like that, that helped determine who went first I think. Something similar could be brought in here. Every <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> unit should be given a strategy rating, which can be used on things in game. For example, each Warlord Trait can have a number beside it, which is how many strategy points it costs, so characters can expend points to buy them straight up. Other options could be modifying your roll-offs for deployment/reserves/first turn/steal the initiative.<br /> <br /> Example<br /> <br /> Space Marine Captain has 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span>. He expends one of them for the "Champion of Humanity" Space Marine Warlord Trait. during the set-up, he expends another when he rolls off to see who has first turn, giving him +1 to his roll, turning his 3 into a 4. During turn 2 he then expends his last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> to add +1 to all his reserve rolls during this turn.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's certainly a system I could get behind,  since it allows more options in the game and promotes keeping you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(227);'>WL</span> alive, not neccessarily because of points instead it's because while they are alive they can still impact the game and how the army functions</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Deadshot wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/77f58ace67ff323c71626bd582ec5ba5.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682033/8496008.page"><b>Torus wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/232d798a364923199dc92df23ca2a444.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682033/8496000.page"><b>Deadshot wrote:</b></a><br/>I remember years ago that armies had "strategy" points or something like that, that helped determine who went first I think. Something similar could be brought in here. Every <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> unit should be given a strategy rating, which can be used on things in game. For example, each Warlord Trait can have a number beside it, which is how many strategy points it costs, so characters can expend points to buy them straight up. Other options could be modifying your roll-offs for deployment/reserves/first turn/steal the initiative.<br /> <br /> Example<br /> <br /> Space Marine Captain has 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span>. He expends one of them for the "Champion of Humanity" Space Marine Warlord Trait. during the set-up, he expends another when he rolls off to see who has first turn, giving him +1 to his roll, turning his 3 into a 4. During turn 2 he then expends his last <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> to add +1 to all his reserve rolls during this turn.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's certainly a system I could get behind,  since it allows more options in the game and promotes keeping you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(227);'>WL</span> alive, not neccessarily because of points instead it's because while they are alive they can still impact the game and how the army functions</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> There are many things that you could do with a system like this;<br /> <br /> <br /> Warlord Traits (maybe even multiple Traits?)<br /> Reserve Roll modifiers (both + and -)<br /> Outflank (for which side you arrive)<br /> Deep Strike Scatter<br /> Night Fighting<br /> Roll to determine if game ends or not<br /> First turn roll<br /> Deployment roll<br /> Steal the Initiative<br /> Tactical Objectives<br /> Mysterious Objectives<br /> Psychic Powers (each power has a set cost of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> if you wish to choose it, or expend 1 to reroll a power)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> It could also breathe some life back into more "leader" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> like Captains and the like by giving them a much high Strategy rating than say, a Librarian. A Librarian or Chaplain might have 2 Sp, and a Catpain 4. Sergeant Telion would only have 1 but be  much cheaper, and Marneus Calgar being a master of warfare would have maybe 6, and Castellan CREEEEDDDD have 15 or something.it could really reshape the game and the way things are played. of course, upgrade charcaters like Sergeants wouldn't have any Strategy ratings, or maybe 1 at most if they are a special character (such as a special squad sergeant).</div></blockquote><br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, this game needs more garunteed access to Invisibility. Nothing can go wrong!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Other than things like Invisibility, it's a good idea.<br /> <br /> Psychic powers are funny, though - it's hard to build a strategy around them without either spam, or tricks (like Tiggy's rerolls) to make sure you get the powers you need. Invisibility is a gamebreaker, most of the others are not. Even ITC-nerfed, it's still a <b>huge</b> deal.<br /> <br /> I like the strategy points idea, though. How might one square that circle? The simple, dumb and ugly version might be "just baleet Invisibility", but I'd be interesting in any better ideas.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682290/8496121.page"><b>jade_angel wrote:</b></a><br/>Other than things like Invisibility, it's a good idea.<br /> <br /> Psychic powers are funny, though - it's hard to build a strategy around them without either spam, or tricks (like Tiggy's rerolls) to make sure you get the powers you need. Invisibility is a gamebreaker, most of the others are not. Even ITC-nerfed, it's still a <b>huge</b> deal.<br /> <br /> I like the strategy points idea, though. How might one square that circle? The simple, dumb and ugly version might be "just baleet Invisibility", but I'd be interesting in any better ideas.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Well obviously, invisibility would cost a lot more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> than other powers. Not all powers would be the same. For example, Warp Speed might cost 1 point, whereas Iron Arm might be 2 because it vastly increases survivability. Invisibility might cost 4 (putting it out of the price range for most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> ratings, as I envision most standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> to have 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> (Captains and Chapter equivilents, Chaos Lords, Autarchs, Battlesuit Commanders, Overlords, Tyranid Primes, Warbosses, Company Command Squads, Daemonic Heralds) etc. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea of having control on warlord traits. The mechanism is simple and interesting, particularly because there are tradeoffs to make. <br /> <br /> Besides this, get ready to buff / nerf a lot of rules and psychic powers to have a true coherency ! Invisibility is pretty obvious, as the former said. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the Strategy Point idea. This or paying points for Warlord Traits and Psychic Powers would be a massive improvemnt over the random rolls we currently have.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6df4ddb208c303ddb1e7c8c52ff631ab.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682290/8496110.page"><b>raverrn wrote:</b></a><br/>Yes, this game needs more garunteed access to Invisibility. Nothing can go wrong!</div></blockquote><br /> #<br /> Well, if everyone can get guarenteed access to it, it effectivelly evens the playing field. Imagine having to hit everyone on 6s all the time. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> because irrelevant, and Orks who barely notice a difference get a boost. Melee becomes viable because you won't get shot to pieces getting there. Armies that have to pay more for psykers will suffer more than those who don't or don't have access to Telepathy. A Space Marine player might waste 300+ pts just to get that Chapter Master for the 4SP he gets so he can drop his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> Libby down and guarentee himself invisibility, whereas the enemy Tau Buffmander is now able to use his 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> freely to influence first turn, reserves and other such things. So the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> player has his invisible units, but the Tau player drops +3 to his Seize the Initiative and the Libby eats a few Heavy Rail Rifles turn 1 and poof! Plus the Tau would have more to spend because he doesn't need 300+ pts of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> just for 1 psychic power.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/232d798a364923199dc92df23ca2a444.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682290/8496273.page"><b>Deadshot wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6df4ddb208c303ddb1e7c8c52ff631ab.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682290/8496110.page"><b>raverrn wrote:</b></a><br/>Yes, this game needs more garunteed access to Invisibility. Nothing can go wrong!</div></blockquote><br /> #<br /> Well, if everyone can get guarenteed access to it, it effectivelly evens the playing field. Imagine having to hit everyone on 6s all the time. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> because irrelevant, and Orks who barely notice a difference get a boost. Melee becomes viable because you won't get shot to pieces getting there. Armies that have to pay more for psykers will suffer more than those who don't or don't have access to Telepathy. A Space Marine player might waste 300+ pts just to get that Chapter Master for the 4SP he gets so he can drop his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> Libby down and guarentee himself invisibility, whereas the enemy Tau Buffmander is now able to use his 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> freely to influence first turn, reserves and other such things. So the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> player has his invisible units, but the Tau player drops +3 to his Seize the Initiative and the Libby eats a few Heavy Rail Rifles turn 1 and poof! Plus the Tau would have more to spend because he doesn't need 300+ pts of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> just for 1 psychic power.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm more into nerfing Invisibility rather than giving it to everybody. The 6th ed version where you could still get hit by flamer templates, blasts etc. was fine. Although i wouldn't be opposed to just writing it off for the purpose of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>'s proposal because Invisibility and the various infiltrate WLTs are the stuff that kills the whole thing.]]></description>
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