http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net The time has finally come: in this game I shall face the man who introduced me to the hobby. Student Vs Master....
...and the stakes, *could not* be higher. If I win, the Imperial Guard retain their humble name. if I should lose however, I must refer to them (as he does) by their dumbass Latin name....
I shall not lose. It can't happen.
Any comments or criticisms on my list appreciated!

HQ
Knight Commander Pask
Leman Russ Punisher
Lascannon
Dozer Blade
Recovery Gear
Storm Bolter.......................235pts
(Command Squadron)
Leman Russ Eradicator
Lascannon.........................130pts
Leman Russ Eradicator
Lascannon.........................130pts

TROOPS
Veteran Squad
Forward Sentries
Chimera.............................135pts

Veteran Squad
Forward Sentries
Chimera..............................135pts

Veteran Squad
Forward Sentries
Chimera..............................135pts

HEAVY SUPPORT
Leman Russ Battle Tank....150pts

Leman Russ Battle Tank.....150pts

Thoughts? I'll take any advice at this point, but please don't ask me to spam wyverns? My wallet can't take much more abuse this month....
His army is fairly typical guard, heavy infantry, with a few tanks.
I'm more of a tread-head I guess? (-we also agreed no fliers, so no need for anti-air options)
Thanks in advance for any input?

Cheers,
GamerGuy
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502411.page GMT MM sponsons. He should easily be able to deal with the few tanks at this level. Then Pask is not needed and could free up some points.

Then load up your eradicators for mowing down infantry. HB all around and if you have points heavy stubbers.

The two standard battle tanks are way overkill if you know you arent facing anything more than T3 4+ Sv You can save points switching to more eradicators or exterminators to take out transports if needed.

With those saved points I would throw in a few special weapons on those vets. maybe some flamers or some GL to keep it cheap and both of those are very good for killing fellow guard.

Best of luck to you. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502481.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502481.page GMT the idea was to use the Eradicators as a spearhead, pushing the midfield. Lascannons for armoured targets, Eradicator Nova Cannons for any and all infantry. Pask to remove anything scary. -the 3 chimeras could then follow the 3 leman russ, seizing and controlling the ground swept clear by the spear head?

-MM sponsons on a vanquisher? is range synergy not an issue there? please don't take this as overly challenging, I'm just trying to learn from more experienced players...

The two LRBT are overkill, I'll gladly concede. -I was thinking in terms of area denial?, those large blasts will threaten infantry; and armour with ordnance?

-sponsons.... the haunting ghost of my past.... I built all of my Russ without sponsons because they were all deployed behind an aegis defence line in my 6th ed gunline list, camo netting and Aegis really bolstered their survivability.... to get maximum efficiency out of the space afforded by the aegis, I skipped on the option to wider the hulls....kind of a mistake, but we live and learn...

-my main problem is, that as the veteran player, he has the *far* bigger army, and so could run heavy armoured lists, or complete foot guard, as he has the models for either?. he could even ally from any number of factions, so I've got to take the TAC approach?

-nice insight on special weapons though! I'd considered the default plasma and melta loadouts, but wanted to stay cheap so they wouldn't get focused on? hadn't even crossed my mind to take 15pts worth of GLs or Flamers....a nice idea indeed...

Thank you so much for responding!
Gamerguy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502513.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502513.page GMT
As for the vanquisher you claimed only a few tanks, at 1200 and assuming foot guard I was thinking 1-2 russes tops.

If that were the case the vanquisher would be enough. for 1-2 tanks...as for the MM sponsons yes that is a range issue...but since he is in a squad with the 2 eradicators they must maintain coherency which is 4"....So your tank commander will be closer to the thick of things.

And with the split fire order your command can pop tanks while your eradicators mop up hordes of infantry.

I dont like running LCs on my eradicators because I always want them shooting at infantry, and a HB suits that role much better and its free.

People tend to take Pask for his set warlord trait. and for a rending punisher so if you were dropping the punisher to a vanq, you could save yourself 40 pts.

WYSIWYG is ideal for tournaments...but for a friendly game when someone has been collecting much longer than you....they should let the sponsons slide...lol

IF you think he is leaning toward foot guard hellhounds and wyvren are also ideal. (I know you dont want to go buy more wyvren lol I get it)

For a TAC you need to balance your tanks and your infantry for killing infantry and for killing tanks. But if he then comes all armor you will be fighting an uphill battle or if he comes all blobbed you will be drowned in bodies. Positioning will be key. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682622/8502644.page GMT
I'm only taking the hull lascannons with this in mind, as a back up resort should there be more armour than anticipated?

I take Pask because the Rending Punisher has always performed incredibly well for me, while also removing the need for a CCS or Lord Commisar, which I don't yet own transports for... He's tough, he deals it out, and has that versatility to remove many large threats. -if pask can't kill it it's probably relying on cover saves/jink, which is nice with the eradicators ignoring cover.

-He would, but honestly I like to think that my army, which contains all the choices I made as a commander (including my crap ones), should be able to take on his choices in a fair fight. WYSIWYG is something I'm quite a firm believer in, it stops people from netlisting from existing models, and instead forces them to work out combos with the units they created? -but maybe that's just me?

Ultimately if I lose: I lose, but I'm looking forward to being able to give him a real run for his money, whatever he brings.
Thanks for the insight Tenzilla, much appreciated!

For The Emperor!
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