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Eldar CAD.

HQ - Farseer, bike, spear
HQ - Farseer, bike, spear

Troops - 3x Scatter bikes
Troops - 3x Scatter bikes
Troops - 3x Scatter bikes
Troops - 3x Scatter bikes
Troops - 3x Scatter bikes

Fast Attack - Crimson hunter exarch, bright lances

Heavy support - Fire prism, stock
Heavy support - Fire prism, stock

Lord of War - Wraithknight, stock

Formation - Windrider Seer council

Farseer, bike, spirit stone - Warlord
Farseer, bike, spear
Warlocks x5, bikes.

The idea is to roll a seer on each of telepathy, runes of fate and divination. The 4th will depend on what powers are pulled and the game situation. If all has gone well then probably go for a second invis. Or maybe sanctic. I don't know which powers to roll on for the council seers for the 3+ casts. Help??

I contemplated dropping a squad of scatter bikes for a squad of stock bikes to put holofields on the prisms, but I think the S6 Dhaka is better for me.

Overall I have 5 fast objective secured units
60 S6 shots from lasers
2 prism cannons for AT, MEQ and TEQ
A knight for knightly things (hopefully invisible...)
4 S8 ap2 sky fire shots that can also smash ground armour
18 warp charge minimum 23 max.

I think it's very powerful. But it's mostly theory hammer at the moment so I'd like some input good or bad before I hand over any cash. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503341.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503361.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503370.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council RoF or Telepathy. You will usually need both Fortune and Invis. Other powers are dependent on the foe. Put the Stone Fsreer from the council into RoF. Then the other into Telepathy. RoF has more WC2 powers that you want than any other tree. And the WC3 power you are most likely to want to cast. One of the things that is awesome about the council is how you can adjust the powers you go for based on the enemy you face. Demons? Then banishment is useful, so Sanctic is great. Tau? Invis twice is massive to get the WK and The Council safe as they cross the board to munch (and Shriek will demolish them also!).


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Fearless. If your council has a bad turn and runs off the table you lose too much. Or if it winds up in an assault that goes awry. Culexus on his own can drop, nullify and kill enough to make the council check (and possibly run). You can get away without hit and run, but NOT Fearless. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503381.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503381.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503516.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council

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Truth is. For anti air, guided and prescienced scatter lasers do pretty well. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8503746.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council CAD with him as the hq and move two bike units over to it for legal purposes.

You'll nab hit & run, perfect deepstrike (for gate), and fearless on top of it.

I'm not sold on the prisms, but it's your call there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8504058.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8504058.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council

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Ok, how about something like this...

Eldar CAD

HQ - Seer, Bike, spear
HQ - Seer, Bike, spear

Troops - 3x scatter bikes
Troops - 3x scatter bikes
Troops - 3x scatter bikes
Troops - 3x stock bikes
Troops - 3x stock bikes

Fast attack - Crimson hunter exarch, bright lances

Heavy Support - Fire Prism, ghost walk matrix
Heavy Support - Fire Prism, ghost walk matrix

Lord of war - Wraithknight, stock

Formation - Seer Council
Farseer, bike, spirit stone, shard
Farseer, bike, spear
Warlocks x5, bikes x5.

I'm tempted to drop 2 spears and the ghost walks and upgrade 1 bike squad to scatter bikes. I really don't want to lose the hunter so this is the only real way to get the shard. But I can use the 2 non scatter bikes for aggressive objective grabbing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8504273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8504273.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council

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I like this list. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505110.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council
 Kholzerino wrote:
Split the stone and shard up. But keep em on the formation guys.


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I like this list.


Thank you.

Out of interest, why would you split them up? Is it because the stone removes the invulnerable? Which one do you make the warlord? The shard I'm assuming?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505142.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505419.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council d6 jump. Baharoth gives you hit and run and fearless. He also gives you a potential 2+ re roll able tanking character. Without him the council can just get held up in combat for the game as they arnt very killy in combat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505817.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council
KillswitchUK wrote:
If baharoth joins you can still 2 d6 jump. Baharoth gives you hit and run and fearless. He also gives you a potential 2+ re roll able tanking character. Without him the council can just get held up in combat for the game as they arnt very killy in combat.


I get what you're saying. And rules wise I can see the reasons for adding him in. He offers the council a huge amount of benefit for very little restriction. I just can't do it. I can't add him in. I also don't think I'd play it very well to be perfectly honest. For example, one of people biggest reasons for taking him is no scatter gate of infinity....but I don't understand why gate is important. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505852.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council ETC and without him the council can get bogged down by things like wraiths with 4+ re an. The no scatter gate is amazing for chasing fast units and taking them out with shriek. De Archon with armour of misery for -2 ld to units within 6 is nice aswell in combo with multiple shrieks. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505946.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505946.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council
Don't you think having a Wraithknight makes a big difference? As you weren't allowed them at ETC, but I think they help keep the council out of a lot of trouble. (Theory hammer) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505973.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505973.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council
Wraithknight helps a lot but yes they wernt allowed that year.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505989.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8505989.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8506078.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8506078.page GMT [1850] - Saim Hann Eldar - Stream lined wind rider list with beefed seer council http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8506090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682691/8506090.page GMT