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My roommate has recently decided to take the plunge and invest in a new army - Skitarii with AdMech support, building up to a full-blown War Convocation. I've not had the dubious pleasure of facing off against the War Convocation before, but from what I can see in my own readings and the general consensus on the 'Net, they're a grade A threat. I've been playing around with Space Wolves lately with the new Curse of the Wulfen book out, and I wanted to try out an assault-centric list with both Wulfen and TWC. Here's what I came up with:

1998/2000 - CAD w/ Wulfen Murderpack

Iron Priest w/ 2x Cyberwolf, Thunderwolf Mount
Iron Priest w/ 1x Cyberwolf, Thunderwolf Mount

10 Grey Hunters w/ 2x Meltaguns, 9x CCW
--Wolf Guard Pack Leader
--Drop Pod
10 Grey Hunters w/ 2x Meltaguns, 9x CCW
--Wolf Guard Pack Leader
--Drop Pod
10 Grey Hunters w/ 2x Meltaguns, 9x CCW
--Wolf Guard Pack Leader
--Drop Pod

5 ThunderWolf Cavalry: 2x Chainsword/SS, 1x Frost Axe/SS, 1x Wolf Claw/Chainsword, Pack Leader w/ Frost Sword/SS

5 Wulfen: Pack Leader, 2x TH/SS, 2x Frost Claw/Stormfrag Auto-Launcher
5 Wulfen: Pack Leader, 2x TH/SS, 2x Frost Claw/Stormfrag Auto-Launcher
5 Wulfen: Pack Leader, 2x TH/SS, 2x Frost Claw/Stormfrag Auto-Launcher

So I'm looking for advice as to whether this list can pose a credible threat against a War Convocation run by a fairly casual general, albeit one who likes to win. If not, is there anything I can change while still keeping true to the 'theme' of the list? I'd really like to keep the Murderpack as is, and I want to keep the TWC as I've never used them before - though I'm certainly open to suggestions as to how to kit them out. I'd also prefer to keep it as a pure Space Wolf force, but I'm willing to work in (Imperial) allies if there's a good case for it. Finally, I'd like to avoid excessive list tailoring against the Convocation.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508080.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation?
Any idea to narrow it down? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508149.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508149.page GMT Re:[2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508880.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8508880.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8509961.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8509961.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation?
Max ruststalkers have a ton of damage potential but are somewhat fragile. T3 and all. If youre not hitting with S6 though they have 2 wounds 4+/6++/5+++. one fleshbane attack, and all of their attacks have pseudo-rending and all AP 2 after the first round of combat.

Infiltrators also have a ton of damage potential but without the AP2.

I would say you stand a chance. It wont be easy but you could win. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510187.page GMT Re:[2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation?
Really, I'm not sure how to use my mandatory troop tax. My other option (Blood Claws) can't put out as much hurt from a Pod (although the flamers can put some hurt on his infantry). Walking up the field (with either unit) lets my opponent ignore them, and if I put them in Rhinos he'll probably just pop the transports with the same result. I did consider going MSU with 5 man squads in the pods (alternating meltas and flamers, probably). I'm also considering dropping the CCWs on the Grey Hunters for some combi-weapons or wargear options. Pretty open to suggestions there. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510334.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation?
If he is using a unit of 3 dunecrawlers he will be taking a 4++ and in a war convo they will have IWND. Its possible but I doubt they will be able to deal with all three in one turn, but if you are using all your grey hunters to target just the due crawlers he can only target one of your units back with them.

However the knight can easily deal with 2 units of of your grey hunters in one turn. 2 battle cannon shots can decimate one whole unit. and a heavy 12 rending cannon..plus whatever he has thrown on the carapace for free, at the second unit. Its not a guaranteed wipe of 2 squads but they will be pretty useless after that is done with them. and the crawlers hitting the 3rd unit...that frees 2 squads of grav destroyers...a unit of vanguard, rangers, and dragoons to shoot your puppies still. Plus the CC units lurking around.

That knight is made for killing MEQs. It needs to be a priority target. or out ranged at all costs. The battle cannon will ID your wulfen so make sure they stay far away from it.

As for the CCW on the Grey hunters usually I am 100% for them, but since the rest of your army is geared for CC I would say more combi meltas.

You could go with a CotgW detachment drop the troops and take a knight of your own...lol
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 Tenzilla wrote:
You could go with a CotgW detachment drop the troops and take a knight of your own...lol

THANK YOU! This was the inspiration I needed. I have the Champions of Fenris book, but I'd dismissed the CotGW out of hand without really looking at it. Now I'm running a second unit of TWC along with a Knight Paladin....poor guy won't know what to shoot at!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8510488.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation?
And your Wulfen / TWC are durable enough to wither a turn of fire and hopefully get an assault off. Just be weary of where he puts his BS 2 overwatch relic. He should be taking it somewhere since its free, and if its a big unit of destroyers you may have to avoid them or throw a sacrificial unit at them first. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8511140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8511140.page GMT [2000] - SW - Fangs of Fenris - Any Hope Against War Convocation? ws of his skitarii to 7 so yeah...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8569695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682957/8569695.page GMT