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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello all got a game with a friend tomorrow and would like feedback on my list.<br /> <br /> We aim to be competitive and I think the list has a good balance of threats and firepower.<br /> <br /> Level 2 librarian will go with the Terminators in the land raider and add some psychic support/offense.<br /> <br /> Tiggy and the centurions take the drop pod and rain grav death on high profile targets whilst hopefully getting invisibility, Maybe divination or another psychic discipline is better?<br /> <br /> I have not really looked into the whole formations at all in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, which is why its a cad list.<br /> <br /> <br /> +++ Ultramarines  (1850pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> Chief Librarian Tigurius<br /> <br /> Librarian [Mastery Level 2]<br /> ··Terminator Armour [Force Sword]<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Terminator Assault Squad 4 x Thunder hammer and Storm Shield<br /> Terminator Sergeant [Thunder hammer and Storm Shield]<br /> Land Raider Crusader<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad [Meltagun, Rhino, 9x Space Marines]<br /> ··Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad [Meltagun, Rhino, 9x Space Marines]<br /> ··Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-melta]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad [Plasma Gun, Rhino, 9x Space Marines]<br /> ··Space Marine Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Combi-plasma]<br /> <br /> + Fast Attack +<br /> <br /> Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> Stormtalon Gunship [Skyhammer Missle Launcher]<br /> <br /> Stormtalon Gunship [Skyhammer Missle Launcher]<br /> <br /> + Heavy Support +<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastator Squad<br /> <br /> ··Centurion [Grav-cannon and Grav-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amp</span>, Hurricane Bolter]<br /> ··Centurion [Grav-cannon and Grav-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amp</span>, Hurricane Bolter]<br /> ··Centurion Sergeant [Grav-cannon and Grav-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amp</span>, Hurricane Bolter]<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks solid.  It’s a lot of eggs in two major baskets, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Space Marines - Ultramarines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What is your opponent's army like?<br /> <br /> It is a strong list, to make it even stronger, can you squeeze somewhere like 140pts to 180pts and fit in the 3rd Libby and a cheap <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> like Telion or a Techmarine into the list? That way you can pull off some very strong psychic power to support your army. Telion being the lowest points <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> for Marines, while Techmarines are for keeping your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> alive and mobile.<br /> <br /> Thing to consider to swap one of the tactical squads for scouts and land speeder storms, add in Sargeant Telion infiltrating with them. Or drop one of the stormtalon and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad for the scout, land speeder storm, Techmarine and whatever else you like.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:24:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Neophyte2012]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im not sure what army my friend will be using, he owns a wide variety.<br /> <br /> Thank you for the comments <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> What Psychic powers would you recommend the librarian take?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Shinzra]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If you need guaranteed invisibility then consider Loth of the Red Scorpions.<br /> <br /> If invisibility isn't really needed for the Cents (grav...) then I would consider Biomancy on Tiggy, hopefully for endurance. Tiggy takes wounds for the Cents and prevents a charge... and Divination on the Librarian<br /> <br /> But again it would depend what fire power the cents will take when they arrive...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Be flexible with the psychic powers. Take divination on tiggy if you need ignores cover for your grav cents. Otherwise I like the look sof biomancy. The ideal loadout would be endurance, life leech, and enfeeble. As a bonus you get smite for even more ap2 goodness.<br /> <br /> For the librarian consider Sanctic Powers.<br /> - Gate: handy in case the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> gets blown up<br /> - Hammerhand: S10!!<br /> - Sanctuary: 2++ invulnerable saves<br /> - purge: awesome for removing grav-cannons and other special ap2 weapons from nearby units<br /> - Cleansing Flame/Vortex: extra dakka<br /> <br /> So even though the primaris is useless the other spells all have some utility to you. Or roll divination for guaranteed prescience for re-rolls to hit in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:12:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Isn't that too many units to fit inside of the Drop Pod?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682987/8509076.page"><b>LoadToad wrote:</b></a><br/>Isn't that too many units to fit inside of the Drop Pod?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> tig is rocking the power armour so it's kosher]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:50:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/682987/8508670.page"><b>Shinzra wrote:</b></a><br/>Im not sure what army my friend will be using, he owns a wide variety.<br /> <br /> Thank you for the comments <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> What Psychic powers would you recommend the librarian take?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The best power discipline for marines are Telepathy and Divination, marines are generally a few model count and few shots count army, in the nowadays environment with that many AP2 weapons or high strength high <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(381);'>RoF</span> weapons and easy access to cover save of those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>, you want every shots you fired to hit, and those anti <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> ones could ignore cover, while keep your most important guys alive. That is what the powers from these two disciplines could provide.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 9 Mar 2016 01:44:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Neophyte2012]]></author>
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