http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net CAD

Librarian - RG relic JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Scouts x2 - cloaks / shotguns


1st Company Task force

Vanguard Veterans x3 - PF / SS / Melta Bomb / 2x Power Weps.


Librarius Conclave

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Just theory hammering a new list. Pretty straightforward this will rely on all the psychic buffs to make it work. But 3 fearless VV's with a reduce leadership bubble sounds kind of dangerous when backed up with shrieks and invisibility.

I'm clearly not looking for competitive, but how well do you think this would work at this point level? How do the load outs look? Any advice for the libs? I also think RG is the best for this, but is there a case to be made for white scars? Thanks. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509250.page GMT CAD? ObSec scouts? There are a number of vet/scout formations out there to choose from.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509308.page GMT CAD as almost "required" since I'm so used to thinking with a FOC.

That being said. The CAD gets me another Libby and I DO want other units that can sit on an objective. The bigger question is what formation or addition could I add for near 230 points that gives me more than the CAD? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8509366.page GMT
Shadowstrike Kill Team

Scouts x2 - cloaks / shotguns (I would go for bolters here but it's personal preference)
Scouts x2 - shotguns

Vanguard Veterans x2 - PF / SS / Melta Bomb / 2x Power Weps.
Vanguard Veterans x1 - PF / SS / 2x Power Weps.

Librarius Conclave

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

Librarian - JP / Force Axe / ml. 2

By my math that comes out to 1000 on the nose. If you really want the extra librarian I would just run a conclave of 4 and drop the 2 additional scout squads to get the same models that were in your original list in addition to the formation benefits, but I've found having 4 scout squads spaced 8-12" apart gives you a huge bubble to drop your vets into on turn 2 and is definitely worth giving up the extra Libby.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8510003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8510003.page GMT
Still, I haven't run the Kill Team yet and it's an easy enough swap. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514029.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514058.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514058.page GMT ATSKNF and decent leadership to begin with makes fearless slightly less valuable on the vanguards in the 1st company task force than it first seems.

With the list I suggested my rough strategy would be to hide my conclave out of the opponent's threat range as far up as I can manage and use my scout redeploy and 1st turn move/run to get my scout units into a semi-survivable location in the middle of the board, then go to ground and pray they all have at least one model alive at the end of turn 1. then turn 2 I would drop in the vanguards and immediately charge something to keep them alive, while using the mobility of the conclave to get them into buffing position for the vanguards.

Granted I've never ran a conclave with vanguards so maybe the psychic support can help keep them alive.. What powers would you be taking on the conclave?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/683021/8514467.page GMT