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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys i had this idea for an army list and i just wanna its the stupidest thing or it may stand a chance <br /> <br /> 1x Captain with bike, power sword and gorgon chain - 170 pts<br /> 5x Command squad mounted on bikes with 1 apothecary and 4 with grav guns and storm shields - 230 pts<br /> 2x Dreadnoughts each with twin linked las and missile launcher - 250 pts<br /> 1x 5 man tactical with lascannon and dedicated rhino - 125 pts<br /> 1x 5 man tactical with lascannon and dedicated rhino - 125 pts<br /> <br /> This leaves me with 100 points to throw around i was thinking an assault squad to back up the command squad<br /> <br /> any input would be greatly appreciated ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks like a solid start to me!<br /> <br /> Personally I'd give the captain artificer armour and a power fist and maybe lose a storm shield or two to compensate.<br /> <br /> Having the lascannons in the rhinos means they can't move and shoot well. Not necessarily a problem but something to consider.  You could keep the rhinos stationary, or dismount the marines and have razorbacks, or go melta with rhinos instead of the lascannons for more mobility.<br /> <br /> Best plan is to play and see what happens as a lot depends how competitive you opponent's list is.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd consider putting one Dread in a pod for a first turn/drop assault. Give it something like a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> for tank hunting or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> for clearing hordes.<br /> <br /> Agree with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(583);'>GC</span> about the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span> on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, a bit pointless <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>. Maybe one with a melta/combi melta sarg and one with flamer/combi flamer sarg?<br /> <br /> Also not sure every biker needs a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, couild save a few ponts there.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the info about the las, i was under the impression that if the rhino moved at full speed the passengers were unaffected and could still fire from the vehicle? And is the idea of losing a couple of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>ss</span> to create a wall with the remaining ones to soak up fire?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Losing some of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> is mainly because its unlikely that all 5-6 of them will be hit at once. Hence you can tank with maybe the first 1 or 2 and leave the rest towards the back.<br /> You could also give the captain a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> all the front attacks on him. Leave one biker with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and save the rest.<br /> If the Rhino moves full speed you snap shot only.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry for the lack of understanding im still trying to pick up the rules for 7th after not playing since 4th. And i'm gonna give the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>ss</span> idea a go gives me enough points to squeeze in another dread or a sizable assault squad ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No worries, its good to post your questions and ideas and get feedback <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> Thats what us geeks are here for!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cheers i came here for help after i tried to play an old skool list against a necron decurion army as my first game back, my mind was blown by the level of cheese there is now <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> would running an assault squad down field with the bikes be a good idea or would they just get shot down easily do to be a softer target than the bikes?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shot down easily <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>. Unless your terrain has lots of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> and hard cover.<br /> How much are you going to spend on the assault squad? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:31:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking of a 6 man squad with 2 flamers and jump packs for 112 pts. not really sure what else to do with the spare 120 pts.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Post your updated list so with less <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> on captain and one Dread in a pod.<br /> Lets see how many points are left then <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not alot has changed really dropped the las for a flamer and melta, switched a dread to twin <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>hf</span> and a drop pod, the captain doesn't need a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>ss</span> as gorgons chain does the same job  <br /> <br /> 1x Captain with bike, power fist and gorgon chain - 185 pts <br /> 5x Command squad mounted on bikes with 1 apothecary and 4 with grav guns and 2 with storm shields - 210 pts <br /> 1x Dreadnought with twin linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>hf</span>, power fist and drop pod - 140 pts<br /> 1x Dreadnought with twin linked las and missile launcher - 125 pts <br /> 1x 5 man tactical with flamer and dedicated rhino - 110 pts <br /> 1x 5 man tactical with melta and dedicated rhino - 120 pts <br /> <br /> that all comes to 890 pts leaving an awkward amount]]></description>
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+++ New Roster (998pts) +++<br /> <br /> ++ Space Marines: Supplement - Clan Raukaan (2013) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> Captain [Captain, Gift: The Gorgon’s Chain, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, Iron Halo, Melta Bombs, Warlord]<br /> ····Bike [Mounted Assault, Twin-linked Bolter]<br /> ····Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Axe]<br /> <br /> + Elites +<br /> <br /> Command Squad [2x Storm Shield]<br /> ····Apothecary [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Narthecium, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····Space Marine Bikes for Squad [Twin-linked Bolter]<br /> ····4x Veteran Space Marine [4x Chainsword, 4x Grav-gun, 4x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> Dreadnoughts<br /> ····Dreadnought [Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Twin-Linked Autocannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon]<br /> ····Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]<br /> <br /> Dreadnoughts<br /> ····Dreadnought [Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Twin-Linked Autocannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon]<br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> Scout Squad [Camo Cloaks for Squad]<br /> ····Scout Sergeant [Chainsword, Scout Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades, Sniper Rifle]<br /> ····4x Scout w/ Sniper Rifle [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Scout Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades, 4x Sniper Rifle]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad<br /> ····Rhino [Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Storm Bolter]<br /> ····Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Melta Bombs, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····4x Space Marine w/ Bolter [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolter, 4x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····Space Marine w/ Meltagun [Bolt Pistol, Meltagun, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> Tactical Squad<br /> ····Rhino [Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Storm Bolter]<br /> ····Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····4x Space Marine w/ Bolter [4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolter, 4x Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> ····Space Marine w/ Flamer [Bolt Pistol, Flamer, Power Armour, Frag & Krak Grenades]<br /> <br /> Created with BattleScribe (<a href="http://www.battlescribe.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.battlescribe.net</a>)
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really like that list, and i always forget about scouts its new to me that they have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>ws</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> 4, the autocannons on the dreads also seem like a great idea specially for popping transports from behind]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:17:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drop a dread in behind for a rear pop and the other sits in cover firing 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ACs</span> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> Scouts arent amazing but they can get a good cover save and hold a backfield objective. And put out a bit of firepower.<br /> Bike squad is solid and the captain is a hard hitter barring 2+ saves.<br /> Rhino marines take obj and have obsec.<br /> <br /> Who will you face in your games?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I usually play against a guard player, a nid player and my main problem is a power gaming necron player ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:23:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are you willing to tailor your list even more to beat him? Honest question.<br /> Or do you play friendly games?<br /> What does he bring at 1k?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i cant remember exactly but at 1k he brings just enough to scrape the decurion so 4+ feel no pain and turn 1 deepstriking immortals with the lord. if i really wanted to win i would just change my chapter to Angels Revenant  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">, but without that i think i would just change every special weapon to a plasma and see what happens ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:45:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Captain and Command squad will do a lot of work. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> of the Captain wrecks stuff.<br /> <br /> I would recomend always taking a combi-weapon that matches your special weapon in each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad.<br /> <br /> I also play a lot of Decurion Necrons, and my answer is Grav. Grav-Cents are simply amazing, and I take them in every game I play.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A lot of people have to tried to sell me on combi weapons but i'm not really seeing the point, what real difference can 1 flamer shot really make?]]></description>
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