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New users in here, so be gentle :-)

As it is now I play orks, and love the aesthetics of them, love the randomness and the possibility to loot everything and call it ork.
My issue is that lately, every time I play a game I lose or really struggle to get a tie or a win. Thing is, I know what to play to get closer to winning, but that entitles loads of dakka. I love dakka, and the randomness of it but I *really* love having a fast army to jump into charge distance turn 2 the latest. The ones of you that play orks know what happens when you get into CC with most otehr units. We get killed. I really miss being able to punish in CC.

I have been talking to one of my really good friends about this and narrowed it down to 2 (3) choices:

Demonkin
- Probably the ones I'm most likely to choose
- They do what orks do, just better, when talking CC. My buddy told me to be carefull seeing as if they did the same, just better I might be inclined to forget about my orksies, and I don't want that.
- Not a lot of options concerning "looting"
- Don't work well in 2v2 torunaments

White scars
- Completely different playstyle with a lot of shooting. And they are better at it than orks
- Not a huge fan of the aesthetics, seeing as it's just white Space Marines
- Really good in 2v2 and 1v1 tournaments
- Not a lot of options concerning "looting"

Space Wolves
- LOVE the aesthetics. Just as much as orks
- They have one really good formation and that seems to be it.

I was hoping to get thoughts from you. Not looking for a direct answer like "You have to pick these because they are waay better than the others". Just thoughts and opinions. Pros and cons. Whatever you can think of, because I'm really at a loss here :-)

Thank you all in advance!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/684533/8536134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/684533/8536134.page GMT