<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551770.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551826.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551826.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? TWC and Wulfen in the pods or just moving them and hopping for run+charge buff for the TWC?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551842.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? TWC. Then he almost always rolls the additional movement speed buff on the wulfen chart. Letting the TWC move an additional 6 inches at least. If I deploy anywhere but the far edge, with the additional 3" assault, he usually locks up one squad, which lets him counter charge my army during my turn with the drop podded units and wulfen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551851.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551863.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551863.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551871.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8551871.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?
I just shot them. As Harlequins. They're only T4 with 4+ or 3++ saves, pretty much anything kills them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552134.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?
the_scotsman wrote:
I played against Wulfen in my last game.

I just shot them. As Harlequins. They're only T4 with 4+ or 3++ saves, pretty much anything kills them.


The Wulfen themselves aren't the scary part. It's that in their murderpack formation they give the ability for thunderwolves to get 38+ inch charges. So if you kill the wulfen you still need to deal with the thunderwolves.

But that's kind of a death star approach so if you have the option to spread out or rapidly redeploy you can counter it to some extent. They also have nothing against flyers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552145.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552165.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552241.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552241.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? You said 9 pods, blackmanes requires
3 BC pods
4 GH pods
1 long fang pod
1 vet unit (TWC)
Scouts

So for cheap pod units I am guessing he has 2 more pods with 5 BC in them. Then his WGBL with the TWC hanging back with the wulfen.

I run blackmanes legendary greatpack, but I only have like, 5 pods. I also run TWC, but I don't have enough wulfen for these shenanigans. In both games I have given my opponent first turn. I don't run my TWC will all storm shields, but I know a lot of people do. Anyway... I've had entire armies unload at my TWC and only kill 2. going second means you can hide them in ruins, or out of line of sight pretty easily (assuming you play with that, then with night fight, you have a +3 cover save). Next turn 9 drop pods are going to come down and bring a buttload of bolter fire with them.

Look into the FW fliers, an avenger strike fighter would be pretty terrifying to a marine army without any AA. His army also wont have any psykers, so you would be unchallenged in the psychic phase to do whatever you want. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552349.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552349.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552366.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? TWC and dakka the wulfen to death. As for the pods...veterans with FRFSRF? Probably of the plasma variety? OR you could run full sized platoons that are stubborn /fearless. If he doesn't have room to deploy his pods he can't bring them in. If he hits terrain, he mishaps. And statistically even two units of wulfen and TWC are unlikely to kill 120+ guardsmen when acting without the drop pods that can't come in. OR a tarpit the TWC and run a knight or two to go Michael Flatly on the wulfen and battle Cannon the drop podded squads.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552385.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552399.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552420.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?
Even 1 models with a toe in cover means the whole unit is slowed down. Pending on the location, I would throw my TWC into the blob. The guard would be hitting on 4s, wounding on 6s and only a slew would be able to swing after they pile in due to how many the TWC kill. Plus, then then rest of the AM army cannot move anywhere through that blob, leaving 9 pods of dudes to do whatever they want. melta tanks, take objectives, whatever.

I've left the drop pod holes, but I think its poor sportsmanship not to alert my opponent to the 1 inch rule before the game happens. I play Renegades and heretics, so its not uncommon for me to have upwards of 150 infantry on the table. Drop pods have scattered into areas where they can land but no one can get out, but I have never had someone intentionally put one in one of the traps.



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Dantes_Baals wrote:
Stubborn or fearless full sized platoon. Tarpit THE TWC

That isn't going to work. TWC have enough attacks that almost any amount of guardsmen aren't going to tarpit them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552503.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?
He had a 50/50 split of bloodclaws and grey hunters. Each grey hunter squad had a rune priest. Each squad had either a melta or flamer
He ran blackmane with a squad in a pod
Then two squads of longfangs with lascannons deployed on the field
Two wulfen squads
And one TWC squad


My list right at this moment is
Pask w/ Vanquisher
Executioner

Infantry Platoon
Lascannon Team
Flakk Team

Vet Squad 2x Meltas

2x Wyvern

4x Skitarii Vanguard w/ rad carbines

1x minimum squad Ruststalkers

3x Onager Dunecrawler
2x Icarus Array
1x Neutron Laser



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And I am inclined to disagree with an infantry blob. Merely because scattering his deployment still screws me. If I deploy mid field with a huge blob, his TWC nab the squad first turn, then he can counter charge every unit he deepstrikes into assault during my turn. That squad is toast on my assault phase then he gets to charge the rest of my army next turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552776.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552776.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552849.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552849.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552964.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8552964.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? TWC unit for its cost. They put out a decent amount of firepower for their points too.

Wyverns are also the way forward for killing any and all ground based things! They'll reliably deal damage to wulfen + TWC wherever they are on the table.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8554748.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8554748.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen?
SplinteredShield wrote:
They are not, although im thinking of dropping 1 in favor of doing the new start collecting formation


Maybe that would work, but another neutron should be good too. I know I'm a fanboy for those things but they should be able to kill at least 1 TWC a turn, as that str10 should kill one on a failed save. Hell you may be even to cover 2 with the small blast.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8554882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685421/8554882.page GMT Dakka Council, how do we kill the Wulfen? Id like. And to be fair I'm trying to keep as well rounded a list as I can for tourney play. Obviously Id drop both of the icarus with no flyers and the flakk team. Im thinking now of
6 vanguard squads
2 avenger strike fighters
And 2 vet squads w meltas
Instead of the platoon platforms and onager


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