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CAD1
HQ1: Ork warboss(60), power klaw(25), attack squig(15), bosspole(5), bike(25).[130]
HQ2: Painboy(50), bike(25). [75]
TROOP1: 10 Gretchins [35]
TROOP2: 10 Gretchins [35]
ELITE1: 8 Tankbustas(104). Truck(30), ram(5).[139]
FAST: 12 Warbikers(216), nob(10), power klaw(25), bosspole(5).[256]
FAST: 5 deff koptas(150), 5 TL rokkits(0).[150]

CAD2
HQ3: Big mek(35), KFF(50).[85]
HQ4: Warboss(60), mega armour(40), da lucky stikk(25).[125]
TROOP3: 30 Boys(180), nob(10), big choppa(5), bosspole(5).[200]
TROOP4: 10 Boys(60), nob(10), big choppa(5), bosspole(5). Truck, ram(5).[115]
ELITE2: 3 Meganobz(120), pair of killsaws(10), bosspole(5). Battlewagon(110), big shoota(5), deff rolla(10).[255]
ELITE2: 3 Meganobz(120), pair of killsaws(10), bosspole(5). Battlewagon(110), big shoota(5), ram(5).[250]

Total 1850 points


(#) explains cost of individual parts of the unit.
[#] explains the total cost of the unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559571.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559571.page GMT manz, not 245 Points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559716.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559716.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8559996.page GMT HQs with the deffkoptas? If not maybe consider splitting them up. If 2 go down they will run so far. 5 singles might be useful for sucking overwatch or getting linebreaker or grabbing a lone objective.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8560014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8560014.page GMT
Game 1, Crusade vs necron decurion - I drove forward and god zapped and killed by destroyers and wraiths. We made it to turn 3. Had we played 5-7 rounds I had been tabled. 1-11

Game 2, Relic vs plasmatoting ravenwing bikers and D-cannon longlegged knight. It was a shooting gallery in which my tankbustas and MANZ got slaughtered. Eventually my warbikes made it to the knight and barely destroyed it. I had grots and big mob left in the end where we fought over the relic and I took it. 4-5

Game 3, Big Guns Never Tire vs Ork Waaagh!-band. That went wild. We were in combat on turn 1 and threw everything into the meatgrinder. I made a smart move and tried to have my warboss take out a lot of the Council. But a failure to make even 1 Look Out roll messed up that plan. 1-11

Conclusion:
Orks are not quite strong enough (but I had that in mind at first). My footslogging mob was not really part of the game. 400 points out the window.

If I want to ITC I need a different army, either my marines or some heavy lifting of the orks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8561977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8561977.page GMT
Also I don't think it went so bad for orks? You lost one match pretty badly (agains necrons) and you had a close match (4-5). The third one was against orks, so you can't use that to claim that orks are bad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8562038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8562038.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8562306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/685858/8562306.page GMT