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				<title>[1000] - chaos daemons - doubles tournament </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ i am entering a doubles tournament in a couple of weeks with a space marine player wondering what anyone thought of my list and what to improve on. <br /> <br /> 1000pt chaos daemons <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> <br /> Daemon prince 145 pts <br /> Wings 40 pts <br /> Warp forged armour 20 pts <br /> Mon 15 pts <br /> <br /> Troops <br /> Blood letters 100 pts <br /> Blood letters 100 pts <br /> Daemonettes 90 pts <br /> Daemonettes 90 pts <br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> Seekers of slannesh 60 pts <br /> 5 additional men 60pts <br /> <br /> heavy support <br /> <br /> soul grinder 135pts <br /> phlegm bombardment 30 pts <br /> mon 15 pts <br /> <br /> total 1000 pts <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ sebbytheseabass]]></author>
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				<title>[1000] - chaos daemons - doubles tournament </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ First of all, take all the individual points cost off. Just put the overall cost for the unit. What you've done is against dakka forum rules. <br /> <br /> Secondly, and to the list itself, why bloodletters? I'd at least drop one squad of those, pump the prince up to a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 3 psyker and roll on telepathy/biomancy. It also gives you enough to grab a greater reward for the balesword. Poisoned 4+ with instant death is part of what makes a nurgle prince. Personally I'd then drop the other unit of bloodletters and replace them with 11 pink horrors. Gives you 2 more warp charge, and can summon units if you're losing too much. Something that could be important at 1K. Horrors are amazing troops because they can then summon the bloodletters you want. 2 units for the price of 1!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 6 Apr 2016 14:42:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Khaine's Wrath]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1000] - chaos daemons - doubles tournament </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for your help<br /> Two things 1.for the 0 on greater rewards can you just choose to have it and 2. I'm not sure what to do with the extra 105 pts (i don't have pink horrors but there next on my to buy list)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span><br /> Daemon prince<br /> Wings <br /> Warp forged armour <br /> Mastery level 3 <br /> Grater reward<br /> Mon 15 pts<br /> =315<br />  <br /> Troops <br /> Blood letters 100 pts<br /> Daemonettes 90 pts<br /> Daemonettes 90 pts<br /> <br /> Fast attack <br /> Seekers of slannesh <br /> 5 additional men <br /> =120pts<br /> heavy support <br /> <br /> soul grinder <br /> phlegm bombardment <br /> mon <br /> =180 pts<br /> <br /> total 895 pts<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:18:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For greaters, lessers and exalted rewards you roll for them. If you don't like what you get you can choose to take the '0' result instead. For nurgle that allows you to take a balesword. <br /> <br /> As for your remaining points, your math must have been off on the first list. I didn't notice that. There's a few options. If it's 100 points you have left you could put that second unit of bloodletters back in. They fit the cost. Horrors are desirable but if you don't have them there's not much we can do there. You could power your prince up more with another greater and maybe even an artefact like corruption. Then fill the rest of the points with nurglings. I love those little guys. <br /> <br /> Do you have many more options?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Apr 2016 11:32:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Khaine's Wrath]]></author>
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				<title>[1000] - chaos daemons - doubles tournament </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ no i only have bloodletters left<br /> what do you think i should buy next if I'm getting into chaos daemons]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Apr 2016 12:41:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sebbytheseabass]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/03bc4999e437c6f5210289c8ca4bfad3.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/686440/8571568.page"><b>sebbytheseabass wrote:</b></a><br/>no i only have bloodletters left<br /> what do you think i should buy next if I'm getting into chaos daemons</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It really depends on how competitive you want to be and what kind of army you want to build. There's quite a diverse number of lists you can build with daemons, which has become larger since the curse of the wulfen book and the daemonic incursion tactic. So depending on what kind of direction you want to go will dictate the best things to buy next. <br /> <br /> A few 'kind of' generic rules -<br /> <br /> Most Khorne units are pretty rubbish. They tend to cost more in points and tend to offer less. There are some good selections, there's not much that's outstanding. Flesh hounds are a decent choice, but are better in the Khorne Daemonkin book. The new bloodthirsters are pretty good, and are arguably better in the daemon book than the daemonkin book as they can take relics and rewards. I know some people that have had some decent luck with an invisible D-Thirster with the armour of scorn. <br /> <br /> Tzeench in my opinion offers you the most competitive choices. Horrors are excellent troops choices as they're psykers. They can also roll on daemonilogy. So they can summon if that's your cup of tea, or they can roll on the new change table and you might end up with a troops choice with a D ranged weapon. Groups of 16 are probably the most common making them ML3. But remember, lose one and you lose a level AND a power. I'm a massive fan of the Lord of change as a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice. Give him rewards and take the staff of change. If you're lucky and get the fleshbane/armour and then he can become your heavy lifter when it comes to armour. Fateweaver is equally as good but for different reasons. He works best when the army is built around him and can be a power house. Slannesh princes with the lash are a solid choice. Always give them wings. Don't forget, if you take a greater daemon from a god, the daemon princes from the same God become heavy choices. So, there's a way of squeezing 4 monstrous creatures in there. Otherwise heralds are a sound choice as you can load up on locus, mastery levels and take 4 per slot. <br /> <br /> Soul grinders are your other heavy lifters if you're not taking daemon princes as heavy support choices. I'm also a big fan of plague bearers, plague drones, screamers and Flamers of tzeench. Controversially I also really like the tzeench exalted chariot. It might be my meta but it does really well for me. And it's even funnier when its grimoire' up. Steer clear of blood crushers and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> always try and summon bloodletters. They don't want to be walking. So will likely be deep striking anyway, so might as well bring them in for free. <br /> <br /> So, what kind of list would you like to build....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 7 Apr 2016 13:32:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was thinking of building a tzeench summoning list but not a to powerful one. A Fateweaver and maybe lord of change for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 4 squads of 16 pink horrors for Troop 6 screamers of tzeench for Fast Attack and a Soul grinder with phlegm bomb for Heavy Support]]></description>
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