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				<description><![CDATA[ This is where I'm at right now:<br /> <br /> Uriah, Warlord 100<br /> Canoness, power axe, boltgun 80<br /> Sororitas Command Squad: 5x MultiMeltas, 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 17 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Simulacrum Imperialus  265<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(453);'>vSS</span> w bolter, Rhino 155 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(453);'>vSS</span> w bolter, Rhino 155 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 145 <br /> Exorcist, 125<br /> Exorcist, 125<br /> Exorcist, 125<br /> 1850<br /> <br /> Uriah and Canoness with the blob. <br /> <br /> The reason I have the blob and not more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span> squads in rhinos is because they provide a unit that may draw some attention away from the other units in the army, and provide a decent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> threat for units that get too close. 3+/5++ lets them absorb a bit of fire.... also 3 Acts of faith in the unit isn't so bad and they may get a few kills here and there too. They are also, fearless and have counter attack from uriah. <br /> <br /> Canoness is the tax required to get the command squad, but does add some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> punch to the blob. Act of faith and stubborn is redundant with uriah's zealot but she could also run with one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span> rhino squads to give them a bit of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> boost. Don't see the need to get rosarius/ophelia. If she dies, she dies. <br /> <br /> Command Squad... not sure about multimeltas with just 24 inch range, but I'd prefer to have more ap3 and less shooting over flamers (which I have enough of). With a turn of movement they can hopefully get into a decent position where they can target a large radius of the field. <br /> <br /> Rhinos over Immos mostly because of the points. Essentially its 20 pts for a TLMM but I lose the fire point that 2 passengers that can fire out of. There is also the added practical problem of immos not being available for purchase from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. Also, repressors are not allowed here. <br /> <br /> Anyways tell me what you guys think.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Anathir]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Who do you play against that you need that many flamers?  'Cause marines, eldar, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and anything fast enough to stay 8 inches out from your rhinos will be impossible to hurt. <br /> <br /> You need to remember that in any competitive environment you're going to play 60% Eldar 20% Space Marines 8% Tau 7% demons 3% Necron and 2% everything else. <br /> <br /> This list will do WORK against necrons, demons(assuming ITC), and everything else, but you will never kill a single model against a good eldar player, space marines will be fun but frustrating but will win the majority of the time as your flamer plink off their armor. Tau will either shoot you to pieces before you get to them, or shoot you to pieces and then when you get to them, stomp you out.<br /> <br /> To help even things out I would drop the Canoness, the command squad, and one flamer group, put the remaining 3 flamer groups into immos instead, you'll have to disembark to get a decent template shot anyway, take celestine(Yeah she dies easy but A. no one shoots at her early if she's not your warlord and B she can chase bikes, jetbikes, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(308);'>MSUs</span> down and eat them in a turn, C she is hilariously effective against warp spiders) 1 Laud hailer on something, the bubble reroll is awesome, and then an inquisitor with 3 servo skulls and the liber herises or w/e for extra scout and extra fluff, and extra screw you white scars.<br /> <br /> Finally, putting the doominions in rhinos is fine, just remeber that you lose 6 inches of range in excange for making them harder to kill.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ERJAK]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thanks for comment.<br /> <br /> If I don't take flamers in the 5BSS squads, what do I run instead? 2 meltaguns on 2 of the squads?<br /> <br /> Range is the issue vs eldar, thats partially why I have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> command squad. 24inches isnt great, but if they advance 1st turn they can cover a huge part of the field...obviously heavy bolter/heavy flamer not worth it for them. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Anathir]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly, I wouldn't run single cad at 1850. I would run a cad and an allied with a single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>inq</span> as my warlord and only run 3 bss to get another exorcist and dominion. The exorcist should be enough to force the elder close.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:59:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ERJAK]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1850] - Sisters single CAD - competitive</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ is their a specific reason why you've gone for a single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(683);'>CAD</span>? The tax for opening up a second cad is only about 295 pts for 2 equipped <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span> choices and a bare bones Canoness and opens you up a lot more heavy and fast slots. I've drawn up a similar list myself which i'm currently building towards which is pretty close to your list only expanded into 2 CADs. I'm waiting for next month to buy the last of the special weapons i need and then i'll use some 'counts as' for the extra 3 exorcists and see how it plays against competitive tournament lists, then start tweaking it. I'm considering dropping an exorcist or two to free up up to 250pts for options, maybe replace the canoness in cad2 for Celestine and/or seraphim for DSR objective grabbing or a couple of penitent engines to fill the melee gap and if there are enough left over points, grabbing Mantle of Ophelia on the warlord. i'm not to worried about flyers because for sisters probably the best tactic is just shoot them till they jink then ignore them and when you say to someone "i'm going to shoot this exorcist, with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span> s8 ap1 shots, at your flyer. Do you want to jink?" they'll usually jink<br /> <br /> CAD1<br /> Canoness, Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Rosarius 80 [Warlord]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Immolator w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 165 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Immolator w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 165 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span>: 4 Melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Immolator w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> 165 <br /> Exorcist, 125 <br /> Exorcist, 125 <br /> Exorcist, 125 <br /> <br /> CAD2<br /> Canoness, Bolt pistol, Chainsword 65<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115 <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(664);'>BSS</span>: 2 Bolters, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> w bolter, Rhino 115 <br /> Exorcist, 125 <br /> Exorcist, 125 <br /> Exorcist, 125 ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Drider]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ no reason... i'm just old skool. I also kind of want to try to sister blob before I discount it entirely. <br /> <br /> Can you please explain TLMM immos over rhinos for the doms?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 Apr 2016 15:58:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anathir]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've had a think about a sisters deathstar and come to the conclusion that the way i'd set it up would be a 20 girl blob with jacobus, canonesses and as many priests as possible (one with litanies). use 1 priest for reroll saves, 1 priest for reroll wounds and the rest of the priests smash. once all the wargear is paid for it's to many points for a unit of footsloggers that are to slow to impact the game as they sit there and have the rest of the army blown away around them.<br /> <br /> i went for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Immos for the dominions because it's 20 points for an extra melta shot which is twin linked and has a longer range. in my thought process it was more than twice as effective as a comi-melta on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> so worth the points. Also if you scout 12" move 6" you'll be probably be in melta range on turn 1 or if you outflank them and get a bad board edge you'll still have enough range to hopefully hit something. lastly if you want to take pot shot at a flyer or move 12" and shoot then you're hitting on 6s and rerolling misses because of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>.]]></description>
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